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<0> Polo
<0> how is it? pretty fast?
<1> yeah its fine
<1> i need a new PC
<1> but its great
<0> lol
<2> hey so is there any real true ways around the vista activation that doesnt leave any evaluation copy or that doesnt expire after a certain amount of days?
<3> yep real true way is to buy it...
<1> Special, Limited-Time Introductory Offer for Beta Users
<1> To show our appreciation for our beta participants, we are offering you the full, released version of Windows Live OneCare at a price of 19.95 for one year. This offer is over 60% off the full retail price and covers up to 3 Windows XP or Windows Vista PCs. The offer will expire February 12, 2006, so be sure to take advantage of it soon.
<1> cool for live one care
<4> ok
<5> meeeeeeeep
<6> so i to understand this correctlly , if i buy oem version of vista and my mainboard fries or something i wont be able to reinstall and activate vista on the new computer because of licencing ?
<7> DING DING DING we have a winnarrr!
<7> OEM Vista is tied to one install and activation, period.



<6> but if mb dies
<6> and needs replacing
<6> boom call in they will allowe it no ?
<7> Then you buy a new copy of Vista
<4> i installed XandrOS
<4> a pay version of debian
<4> :)
<5> that seems kinda extreme for MS to not allow reinstallation/reactivation
<7> XandrOS isn't too shabby, but it's still just Linux
<5> if the mobo dies
<6> yah
<4> if you buy a dell with vista and the mobo fries, i bet dell will get you vista back on it
<6> if it fris
<6> what are you to do
<6> my prob is i oreded a system and my retailer is bringin in vista oem for me
<4> if the OEM is big enoigh they can do good support
<6> its not pre built
<6> just parts
<5> go back to XP or whatever you had previous to Vista
<4> if it is jo bob's PC shop built you one, then SOL
<5> and argue with MS
<6> i gonna have to call them
<6> and find there # for this
<6> any idea on what # to call for reguards to this ?
<5> uh, that's "their" not there, please :D
<5> they're already doing vista preinstallations now?
<7> I gave you the answer, yanno
<6> so your saying oem u cant even format and reinstall ?
<7> You can buy Vista Ultimate on Newegg right now for $199
<6> and activate it agina
<5> woot, came out earlier than expected, then
<7> Once you activate an OEM Vista install, it will only work on that hardware, period
<6> ok
<7> What part of that is so hard to understand?
<6> has to be locked to 1 hardware no ?
<6> cnat upgrade a ting ?
<6> newegg cheap
<6> no system needed ?/
<4> well
<6> http://promotions.newegg.com/msvista/Vista_Products.html
<4> sounds like "vmware" is the hardware to use
<6> ahh there all oem
<4> they're
<5> you COULD try buying the *exact* same mobo that got fried
<6> well ya
<6> but things get outdated and hard to find
<5> so do people
<7> If that's the case, it's too old to run Vista :P
<5> agreed
<5> what fried the mobo, anyway?
<7> He's just posing hypothetical situations that I can see, not something that has happened yet
<6> oem is useless if you cant upgrade
<5> ah
<6> thats gay but thats y such a low $
<5> then perhaps you'll find this quote quite appros, then
<5> Worry wastes energy. The time to stop worrying is today.
<5> Dr. Norman Vincent Peale
<7> It's not useless, it serves the purpose it was designed to serve
<7> OEM copies should never be allowed for purchase by just any damned consumer, that's where the problems come in
<5> exactly
<6> and thats exacttly what i've done buying oem ver from my computer store



<6> so now i ahve to change it and get retail
<5> oem's are more for like, people who can actually *maintain* their computer
<7> I don't see the need
<6> i eman i bought all parts for a full computer , - the monitor
<7> Just build a solid Vista box for the OEM copy and be done with it
<7> Adding RAM, a hard drive, video card, etc... that stuff doesn't trigger activation issues
<7> The mobo does, primarily
<6> ok so its jsut locked to the board itself
<7> How often does a mobo just up and die for no good reason
<6> i understand that but ya never know
<7> Activation is tied to the whole machine, but only certain components will trigger a reactivation request
<6> its the 1 case , maybe i just being parinoid cause its my 1st legit copy i getitng
<5> then if you're THAT worried, then you go get the retail copy
<7> How can you be in the computer business and not know or understand this stuff? That's just ****in' scary to me
<6> i never delt with legit copys b4
<7> That's even scarier
<6> ok let me throw 1 more thing at ya
<5> you're building a computer and never dealt with legit copies? lemme make sure i'm a safe distance away from you :D
<6> if i install vista home pre now the ver thats in the scence ,dont enter a code or activate it i got 30 days . then i buy my oem copy in say 2 weeks can i just update my key on the install ver and all be ok ?
<7> Yep
<7> Well, uhmmm... maybe not
<6> or nto worth chasin somthing
<7> Depends on what version you snagged from "the scene"
<6> diff is i installed retail and will be activating oem
<7> The old Retail/OEM rule still applies
<7> You can't use Retail keys with OEM versions, etc
<6> Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Final-BillGates
<6> but in install i went with hiome pre
<6> same as i am buying'
<6> ok so
<6> yah
<6> so i looking at a format
<6> which is ok
<6> jsut i getting all parts tom and vista not out yet
<7> That's the MSDN version :P
<6> ahh
<6> hehe
<7> So another one entirely, as I understand it
<6> so i'll instal it and see how it is and runs , this is my new htpc case
<6> yah
<6> when i get legit os in i will format it
<7> Bleh... looks like I might have Vista downstairs in the office too
<7> Ultimate for $199... that's some big damned price drop
<8> someone came to their senses
<7> That's just the OEM copies
<8> oh
<8> n/m then
<7> Seems like most every online retailer is actively shoving it now, just within the past 24 hours or so
<8> i've just been running xp anyway
<7> Yeah... I'm longing for Vista again actually :D
<8> i have it installed
<8> just no real desire to run it
<7> It'll be awhile before I can gut out this machine and do some real work again
<7> Bleh
<9> can i download vista ?
<10> i dont think the new crack works
<10> i tried it
<10> now i cant enter vista
<10> i have limited functionality.
<10> its like a browser screen.
<10> anybody have thoughts?
<7> ?? ate - always
<10> ummmm
<10> formating is not an option
<10> i have very large hdds.
<10> cant i reinstall and run crack?
<7> Well guess what, you don't have a choice now
<10> where can i read about this?
<7> www.microsoft.com/genuine :)
<10> how about they have enough money give the little guys a turn . com
<10> or can i have that in strawberry please?
<12> anyone else have a problem burning the winbeta version getting a redunancy check in nero?>
<7> It's a hacked version anyway, avoid it


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