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<0> When I returned I was greeted as the scum of the Earth...
<1> really?
<0> al these gis are doing is doing what they swore to do when they joined...it's an ultimate act of accountability
<2> As if it was the fault of enlisted people that 'war" lasted as long as it did or as many of our people died as did...
<1> i thought everybody was happy for all the vets coming back alive
<1> wow
<0> it's not about right or wrong just that what they did was appreciated not because the idiot in Washington chose to get us into this just because they went
<2> One of the best lines in Fahrenheit 9/11 was when Michael Moore asked that Senator "So, are you gonna get your son to enlist and send him over to Iraq?"
<0> exactly bb
<2> Senator looked at him like "Get real"
<0> it's not about politics it's just about thank you...
<1> so those thank you commericals are actually honestly just thanking the people who went to war?
<1> nothing more
<1> ?
<2> You thank a firefighter for saving people and putting out fires... you thank a doctor for saving your life or stopping disease... they're doing it because they choose to do it, enlisted people in the military should be thanked for doing it too
<1> i agree!
<1> but i've always thought those commericals on tv were trying to get MORE people to enlist
<1> maybe i guess in this case, being deaf really does defeat the purpose
<2> The commercials are a token of thanks... it's not like they're gonna give military folk free beer for life, but it's a gesture to at least make it known that people appreciate what they're trying to do, even if it seems wrong to most people
<2> There were no words in the commercial, just so some background music then the clapping
<0> like I said there's not a word in that commercial doll...
<2> some soft, even
<0> just applause and very nice music
<1> now that i know the commericals aren't trying to rope people into military or nothing - that it's just for real thanks - that's totally awesome
<0> nothing more need be said...
<1> yeah
<1> nothing more
<0> right now I have the mother of my son being totally pissed off at him because he isn't behaving like she wants him too. So she isn't even going to say goodbye to him when he enters the military...needless to say I read the riot act to her...
<1> oh ick
<1> that's cruel
<1> what if he died over there! and no byes done?!
<1> she'd have that with her forever
<0> what I tried to tell her
<1> and i couldn't imagine how he would feel
<0> I will know more when I see him on the 9th
<0> but he's not happy but he is...this is his decision to join the military
<1> as long as he's doing it for himself, not for a misguided reason
<1> that's what i'm only hoping the majority of the kids do
<1> then again - what is a misguided reason?
<0> well he knows that he has screwed around enough and that he has to do something...we won't take him in because he's been an ***hole for the last year...so this is a better option for him
<1> not enough options for college?
<0> misguided reason is a decision you make because of others not yourself...
<0> that way if it comes out wrong it's their fault
<1> yeah, i guess that's a perfect way to put it
<0> he doesn't even want to finish that program he's in at that school I don't think he has enough discipline to put himself through college which is what a 4 year degree is all about...
<1> and a lot of my decisions in college were certainly screwed
<1> long damned story
<1> ah, yeah, military will certainly instill that into him for sure
<0> oh **** don't think I won't understand I went back to college when I was 33
<0> it was then that I found the value in education
<1> nah it ain't that, it's that some of of it i don't want to say out here, hehehehe
<1> or better yet
<1> i don't want to sound like i'm blaming others/things instead of myself when in reality it was myself
<0> yep it's like I told him don't think that the military is going to put up with all his bull**** they will toss you in jail and take your pay. Keep ****ing around and they will toss your *** out with a Bad conduct or really evil discharge
<1> his training should be extremely interesting, no?
<0> hehehe
<0> yep it will...
<0> I want to see what it's going to be like for him just getting through basi
<0> basic even
<1> do let me know :D
<0> short hair which he hates...
<0> getting up early which he hates...
<1> oy
<0> having to do his own laundry which he hates because we have a live in nanny
<0> oh boy this is going to be fun
<1> in essence, military is all about everything that he hates
<1> especially basic training
<0> when he comes home he will be a different person and his mother won't know what to do...
<0> well it's about discipline...
<1> live in nanny?? send her to me :D
<1> i need one
<1> :P
<0> doing things when others want you to do them now when you decide it's okay to do it...
<1> hehe
<0> you know...let's charge that foxhole!! **** they are shooting at me...I don't wanna...
<1> so in essence, your boy is a normal rebellious teen
<0> yeah well here's a boot in your *** get going
<1> with a bit more rebel thrown in here and there, from a tad less limits
<0> exactly Sulwyn just like I was
<1> all kids need limits to have self-discilipne
<0> the only difference was that my mom put up with it until I was 18 then packed my *** off to the military
<0> Mom was a good woman
<1> and i know this because of what happened and my major and what i see in kids :)
<1> i may never be a parent, but i'm a damn good parental advisor
<0> you know things have gotten so weird especially in California the neighbors see you yelling at your kid or spanking him and they call the police on you
<1> i know, calif's ****ed up
<1> and i keep thinking
<0> the police would show up and tell me you know Joe I understand what's going on here and I'm with ya but you can't let the neighbors see you@
<1> where were you do-gooders when i was living there?
<0> at that point I moved out because the mother's an egghead too
<1> heh
<0> I moved a mile away...
<1> bb would tell you my mother is an idiot or something
<0> and you know the only way to be a parent is you have to live in the same house with the kids talk to them constantly and make them live by certain rules...
<1> i don't know how he'd describe her
<1> yeah, exactly
<1> i never lived with *anyone* constantly tho for more than oh, 2 or 3 years in a row
<0> you need to talk to them all the time...ask them where they are going what are they doing and I need you here everyday at 7 for dinner all of you. And if you can't make it you better call and have a really good reason and it better not happen to much either
<1> sounds like your mom and the military taught youhow to be a dad really well :D
<0> hey bb thanks Nero just finishing installin
<2> "You've got mail!" unless you weren't paying attention the first time
<0> lol
<0> no I haven't read it yet
<0> here we go
<1> nobody has taught me how to eat without being picky, but i'm getting much better, altho bb isn't caring too much about the fact that i'm getting less picky, oh well :P
<1> hehe
<1> No Mayo! dammit! hehe
<0> ahh bud thanks
<1> yay for mail!
<0> yeah mail is cool
<0> interesting thing about vista and some proggies it bitches at you about compatibility when you first run the program...then you just tell it to shut up and it runs the program with no problems for the most part
<1> it's a learner
<1> that's why
<1> i think
<0> yes it is...
<0> and that's pretty cool
<0> very intuitive
<1> yah
<0> iris has the clap
<1> an interesting one, to say the least, indeed
<1> what's the X1300?
<2> The video card I'm interested in
<1> oh
<1> get it
<1> mayo - milk - or sour cream?
<2> Oh well, I'm off to image this current install then slap Vista Lite on here, see what happens... bbiab
<1> ok
<3> anyone have a pci ide card they want to get rid of :)
<1> good question
<4> not me
<4> i just bought a wireles N gigabit router
<3> I need that too
<3> haha
<3> but not as much as pci ide controller
<3> or I need sata hard drives
<3> more of them
<3> hi wom
<3> brb
<3> back
<1> wb
<3> hi suly
<1> how goes?
<5> so what is the general decision on what version is the best and how bad is the call home stuff on vista
<1> ?? opinions
<1> personally, i like ultimate
<1> you don't gotta call home if you're willing to reinstall every 30 days
<3> ?? editions
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