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<0> ?? altvista
<1> ah shoot sorry guys 1 more time gotta restart this script...
<2> see that doesn't answer my question though unless what it is saying is that both version DO NOT come on the dvd
<2> hey barry
<3> hi joey
<0> it doesn't :D
<3> hi sulwyn
<2> ahhh well that ****s
<0> and it also tells you HOW to get one or the other that you're missing
<0> hiya, barry
<2> Please note that 64-bit media is included in the box with the purchase of Windows Vista Ultimate.
<4> If you buy Ultimate you get 2 DVDs in the Retail box
<0> oh, you get two dvds in the box - with ultimate?
<4> That's the only way you get BOTH at the same time
<2> one 32 and one 64
<2> I see...
<4> If you already have a key, you don't need the DVDs
<1> eh this script doesnt open all my windows i /j for some reason
<1> worked before
<2> well still running a beta here so I would like to have a copy of the final RTM media
<0> well, shouldn't there be an ?? ultimate saying that, so that peeps can get that answer and we don't develop carpal tunnel syndrome from typing it all out?
<4> I thought downloaded the full release by now
<0> you sure it's beta and not the RTM?
<2> that link you gave me in Easynews never burned
<0> might account for the problems he had yesterday
<2> then why is it running smoothly now...I have the AIO
<4> !learn vistaultimate If you purchase the Retail boxed release of Vista Ultimate you'll get 2 DVDs in the box: one for the 32 bit versions, one for the 64 bit versions. There is no other way to get both 32 and 64 bit versions of Vista at the same time from the same purchase.
<2> that's not nice what if they try the 64bit and don't like and then want to go to the 32bit?
<2> call MS and they will send you the other one that's what
<2> for a nominal fee
<4> No, they won't, that's the problem
<2> You can order either of these alternate media for a minimal fee, including shipping and handling. To order, you'll need to supply the 25-character product key that came with your purchase.* You'll find the product key on a yellow sticker on the back of your DVD media holder.
<4> Right now Microsoft isn't supplying the 32 bit version to people that purchase the 64 primarily because the only way to get ONLY the 64 bit version is to buy the OEM 64 bit release... there is no boxed Retail release for just a 64 bit version
<2> aha so all that's out there is a bunch of 32bit Vista versions how nice
<1> maybe i do need the 64bit version hrmm
<4> All Retail releases are 32 bit, so the only "alternate" you would get it 64, but since you can't really buy a 64 bit Retail version (only with Ultimate which comes with the 32 bit DVD anyway), you can't get the 32 bit DVD when you buy the OEM release
<1> ah
<2> I'm talking retail...
<4> There are no Retail boxed 64 bit versions of Vista, there never will be
<4> Only in Ultimate, and that's a dualie
<1> i see
<1> vista is too program friendly
<1> yet i see
<1> too
<1> it lags my messenger
<2> so if you get a 64bit OEM and want a 32 bit version you have to order it for a nominal fee
<4> Buy 32 bit, get the 64 bit DVD for shipping and handling... buy a 32 bit OEM, you can probably still get the 64 bit OEM from Microsoft for shipping and handling... buy a 64 bit OEM, you're stuck
<1> well my buddy list takes 5 minutes to full load
<4> The "buy one get both" only applies to Retail boxed 32 bit versions
<1> *fully
<2> yep hmmm so how to order a 64bit retail?
<1> what cd burning softwares
<1> good for this?
<4> Buy Ultimate, that's the only way
<2> **** that...they are crazy...
<4> I just told you, there is no Retail boxed version of 64 bit, it's only available in the Ultimate Retail box
<2> no you have to buy the 32bit and then call ms for the 64bit
<4> Yeah, you can do that, but you sounded like you wanted to BUY the 64 bit Retail, and you can't
<2> that's the only alternative to buying Ultimate
<4> You BUY the 32 bit Retail and get the 64 bit media sent to you for shipping and handling
<2> exactly
<4> Look at it this way: Buy a 32 bit version and pay $10 for the 64 bit... still cheaper than $400 for Ultimate to get both... got it? :P
<2> so you end up with Ultimate anyway but for a lot less
<2> hehehe
<4> No, you don't because you can't get Ultimate without buying Ultimate :)
<2> well yes if you want all that stuff that you will never use
<2> all I care about is the 64bit version
<2> i have used Ultimate and it's no different then Home Premium for my uses
<4> 32 bit Ultimate OEM for $199 these days isn't too bad, but it does not guarantee Microsoft will get you a 64 bit DVD, that's the problem
<4> There's no proof yet that Microsoft will supply people with the 64 bit DVD
<2> and I would guess for 99% of the computer population out there too
<2> well they have to supply with you some sort of media to install the 64bit version.////what a floppy?
<2> first you install the 32 bit then they give you an upgrade?
<4> No they don't :P
<2> hehehe
<4> If you're buying any OEM release, you are on your own, bub, period.
<2> stop it with the oem
<4> OEM = Microsoft doesn't have to support it in any way, shape, or form
<4> You buy an OEM system builder release, you're on your own, don't bother calling them because they're not going to support it
<2> we are talking retail...this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to walk into Costco and get the retail version of Vista Home Premium then I'm going to call MS and order the 64bit I want to know what sort of media they will send for the 64 bit version
<4> A DVD, simple
<2> well there you have it...you know I will never order an oem unless it was like XP 64 bit
<4> A single layer DVD with nothing but 64 bit versions of Vista on it
<4> Just like the 32 bit version of the same DVD
<4> Nothing wrong with the OEM releases, it's the same damned software, always
<2> so basically I will have two versions of the same os one 32 and the other 64
<4> The only difference between ANY of these things is the key
<2> and one you just stick in and off it goes the other you have to show it something so it will install...
<4> It's the same software, same stuff on the DVDs, bit for bit identical to the RTM, they have been since it came out in early November, it's the KEY that is different, the KEY determines everything
<2> yes one is a 0 the other is a 1
<4> There is no "upgrade" disc, or upgrade builds, it's the key that determines it all
<2> in the binary code that is
<2> yes it won't upgrade...
<2> you have to boot from it and it will rename the old os to windows.old
<2> don't know why hehehe i wonder if will format or just shove another windows on there and a new program files (x86) on the hard drive...and now erase any other files you have on there?
<2> not I mean
<0> in essence: windows will all get renamed to windows.old - and then a new windows gets plopped on there
<0> same dvd - the key just tells the dvd which version of windows to plop onto the machine
<2> yeah but say you have other files in other folders on say that C drive you're installing to will they be left alone?
<0> and that is why i ultimately do not support upgrades
<0> back them up
<0> and find out
<2> hehehe
<2> no thankws
<0> NEVER play with fire
<2> let someone else do that if they want to ...
<0> good idea
<0> :D
<2> that's why I get hard drives that are big enough by themselves to just fit the os on them
<4> Why would you buy an upgrade version of Vista if you can get an OEM full version for nearly the same price these days?
<2> exactly bb
<4> I just take the easy way out: install it, use it for 29 days, start over... much easier
<2> it's only like $70 more for the retail of HP from the Upgrade
<0> and now i ask you - why the **** did you just about make bb rip his hair out?
<4> If the OS can even survive 29 days of the stuff I do to it, that would be a miracle anyway
<0> that's for sure
<2> I don't know because we were speaking the same thing but he kept saying OEM
<2> I was saying retail every step of the way
<0> that's because that's what you have right now
<2> no I have the retail...right now
<0> you gotta install a retail
<4> Retail of what?
<0> if i'm reading you right
<2> Vista...
<0> you have a screwy OEM installed on that machine
<2> it even installs without a key
<0> that ain't retail, babe
<4> All of them will install without a key
<2> and then it leaves me alone for 30 days
<4> Nobody needs a key to use Vista forever, that's the point :P
<2> if I use that crazy key it bothers me all month long for validation
<0> that's normal standard procedure
<4> It's even easier than XP to pirate in that respect
<0> yep
<0> if you install it with a key, it'll annoy you for 30 days for activation
<2> well there you have it...there's no difference from either version pffft
<4> But most people will still look for a hack of some kind because they dread reinstalling every 29 days or so... I don't have that issue :P
<2> the only hack is a valid key so far
<4> You couldn't install XP without *some* key, even if it couldn't be used for activation... Vista doesn't have that requirement
<0> then after you activate it, it's locked into to that machine
<0> in essence to that mobo
<0> that's what most people don't understand
<4> Too much paranoia and misinformation about Vista floating around... it's very easy stuff to figure out
<2> hmm I wonder if you blow a mobo and the mobo is no longer for sale what is MS going to do then?
<2> especially with Ultimate...
<4> They are not going to **** people over - "buy it once, and you're done"
<0> that's been my question, myself
<4> That's simply not how it works, but that's how the media and all the bloggers and idiots are portraying it so far
<2> what does that mean bb when what I just asked happens?
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