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<0> but the sales from a reasonably priced easy to customise router would far outweigh that $5
<1> uhh.. these devices generally cost less then 10$ to make in total
<1> they are generally shaving pennies
<0> not like the wrt54g's are the cheapest wifi router/ap on the shelves
<1> this is a commodity market largely, I mean wireless AP's are down to 20-30$ now
<0> so like some n00b clueless tool is going to buy it
<0> they just want one that works
<0> not one that runs *nix
<0> still $100 here
<0> someones making lotsa money.
<1> Thadius: BTW if you want to see what real AP's cost go check out symbol
<0> $500AUD
<1> several thousand bucks for say a 6 ap box with 6 radios
<0> for cisco gear
<0> yeah
<2> Thadius: 99% of consumers could care less if its customisable, that $5 per unit adds up when you're producing 50,000 a month



<1> yeah. cisco makes real APs
<1> ap's that can do mesh/roaming
<1> ever seen an office try to cover a floor with say 4 consumer ap's? it's a disaster
<2> seifried3: I can do that with my wrt54gs and openwrt
<0> that's the thing, i've got a friend who runs a business with australia wide consumer and tourist centre net acesss
<2> the hardware inside is very high quality
<0> all he uses is wrt54g's
<1> redhook: like I said, go check out what symbol does
<1> Thadius: that's a consumer grade network (i.e. one ap per area, not really heavy use)
<0> i've got an asus wl-520g on 25mw ( goes up to 84mw without mods) that is going 50ft through 6 walls and i still get 100% power and signald
<0> -d
<2> heh, mine goes up to 251mw
<1> yeah ok try this
<1> put 4 ap's in a confined area
<1> and try to get good and reliable data transfer rates with 20 clients
<0> wrt54g's have a power mod, go to 250mw
<0> with a heatsink on the cpu
<2> Thadius: no mod at all
<2> and its 251mw
<0> live in a cold country ?
<2> nope
<0> you're an arab ?
<2> Xmit Power: (Default: 28, Range: 0 - 251 mw)
<0> what hardware ?
<2> linksys wrt54gs
<0> wtf
<0> makes me wonder why my buddy doesn't use them then
<2> I can go across the street and still get 100% recieve
<0> yeah
<0> same as my wl-520g
<0> for a cheap box, it owns
<0> got a linksys 54g card too
<2> kismet picks it up over a block away
<0> antenna is atleast 6" long
<2> I still have the dual stock antenna on it
<2> antennas
<0> yeah
<0> gs got usb ?
<2> no
<2> wtf would I want usb on a router for?
<0> love my wl-500g/gx because they've got 1/2 usb ports
<2> what good is that?
<0> router and a 400gb usb drive and you've got a linux ftp/whatever box
<0> no actual machine
<2> that will slow the router down
<0> default firmware has support for a ftp from usb stick/hdd
<2> I use NFS on my raid array
<0> not too much
<0> 300mhz mips
<0> good enough
<2> close to 1tb on my laptop via nfs =)
<0> wifi you'd get maybe 3mb/sec
<0> heh
<0> got about 1tb spare laying about the lan here
<0> not much to fill it with, with 1.5mbit dsl
<2> 02:45:41 up 45 days, 6:12, load average: 0.20, 0.17, 0.05
<2> thats my wrt
<3> hahaha
<3> This copy of phpbb is vulnerable to an exploit, please update it IMMEDIATELY to 2.0.11 or later, do not use a version older than 2.0.11
<0> routers i've got here don't like my telnet action
<2> telnet is evil, use ssh



<0> 05:33:09 up 10 days, 19:33, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
<0> that's a wl-500g
<2> you must not have much traffic
<0> doesn't have ssh implemented in the olegs firmware it's running
<0> nahh, 1mbit wireless link at my dads place
<3> cisco 3640 (R4700) processor (revision 0x00) with 57344K/8192K bytes of memory. Processor board ID 26414303 R4700 CPU at 100Mhz, Implementation 33, Rev 1.0 Bridging software. X.25 software, Version 3.0.0. SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp). 2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 4 Serial network interface(s) 8 ATM network interface(s)
<3> atm ftw
<2> I like to change my ssid and channel to the same one as my neighbors sometimes and then jack the power all the way up heh
<3> haha
<2> always fun to look at their porn
<2> its nice how windows always connects to the strongest signal
<0> cause it's S M R T
<0> like bill gates
<2> you know whats even better? if someones ever had a ad-hoc wireless connection you can hijack their laptop and they wont even know it connected
<2> you just look for clients trying to connect to a non-existant ad-hoc network and set your machine to accept the connection
<2> airports are great for trying that out
<3> or wardriverz
<2> S|imey: no, wardrivers are gone real quick and their system is scanning and not accepting connections
<2> S|imey: ad-hoc is for wireless what using a crossover cable is for ethernet
<3> heh i used to have a box at work running host-ap but would serve a saved copy of www.meatspin.com
<3> i work at a college so i see all kinds of people trying **** like that
<2> I have this script that will change every image retrieved via http with whatever I want
<2> just required two wireless cards and clients on a ap thats not encrypted
<2> nice for putting tubgirl up
<2> its the funniest **** at conventions, everyone scratches their head going "wtf"
<3> heh
<3> Uptime 0 years, 25 days, 19 hours
<3> CPU Usage 0 %
<3> Memory Total 1008 MB
<3> Memory Used 993 MB
<3> Memory Free 15 MB
<2> 03:01:14 up 19 days, 13:57, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
<2> 02:45:41 up 45 days, 6:12, load average: 0.20, 0.17, 0.05
<2> 03:02:10 up 8 days, 8:30, 5 users, load average: 0.19, 0.26, 0.20
<2> that last ones my laptop
<4> [anyweb@www ~]$ w
<4> 12:12:42 up 118 days, 34 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
<4> USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT
<4> anyweb pts/0 h25n4fls33o1096. 12:12 0.00s 0.03s 0.00s w
<5> heh local comp store is giving away a Fantastic Four DVD if you buy NIS2006
<6> whats peoples opinion of panda AV products?
<3> 30/01/06 05:25:48:010 N:0000013221 T:00a60000 L:40 S:04a03c00 CResourceReportLog
<3> CResourceReportLog::OnMaxTimeToLiveForRRFileTimerJumped. StartTimer RR_RETRIVING_INTERVAL_EXCIDED
<4> panda av sux
<5> hahaha
<5> Darryl's gonna have your balls for that
<7> how do i access a router's settings from a computer at a different location ?
<7> anyone know how to access a WAN port on a router?
<5> wtf
<5> you already asked this in a different channel
<5> go read your router's manaul
<5> manual*
<8> whoo i farted
<9> anyone awake?
<10> what ports are used for LCS web access?
<11> lcs?
<12> you're just supposed to know
<11> oh
<9> the cpu fan spins and the mobo lcd is green
<9> :<
<11> umm, yey?
<12> bad power supply, motherboard or cpu, in that order
<12> or video card, but hoepfully you'd figure out somethign that simple
<9> cpu fan spins and the mobo lcd is green
<9> wont post
<9> maybe graphics card
<9> the plug i used sint cponnected
<9> or?
<12> or the list I JUST gave you to answer your question
<9> ahh
<13> hi
<12> wb
<13> thx
<11> hey Ta1oN


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