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<0> on dslreport they don't have a listing for ftth. just dialup, dsl, cable, t1, and t3
<1> t1 isn't fiber, it's copper
<1> none of those are fiber
<2> its gooooooold
<3> rotorface!
<2> die
<2> i mean, yo
<4> anyone have ultraiso?
<3> hey Darryl
<4> hi ziggz
<0> t3 and oc3 isn't fiber?
<0> its not fiber optic?
<4> t3 isn't
<4> oc3 is
<1> indeed
<5> oc3 is fiber
<1> and yo'ure not getting either anyway, so it doesn't really amtter
<0> I really don't understand. lots of people get really really fast speed with copper even when being far. its just more expensive. but still it can be done
<5> t3 is wire
<0> if I had the money I could get an oc3 connection at my house. why is that? why if I had the money I could do it, but with ftth they can do it for much cheaper?
<1> lol
<5> If i had the money to install a oc3 in my house, id use them for other things
<1> go look up SLA nad guaranteed bandwidth
<1> just like I said last time you asked about this
<0> ok
<0> "SLA nad guaranteed bandwidth" ?
<1> yes, exactly like that, typo and everything
<0> sla is special libraries ***ociation
<1> try again
<1> here's a clue, if it doesn't sound like it's applicable to an internet connection, you've probably got the wrong SLA
<6> what time is it est?
<6> 5.06pm?
<5> HAHAHA Special Libraries ***ociation
<4> square: 4
<5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbionese_Liberation_Army
<6> oh, the clocks didnt go forward for you guys?
<1> next week, square
<6> oh
<5> hehe
<6> that ****s
<5> we did it tonight
<4> brits are all ****ed up ;)
<6> means the meeting is 4am here
<5> one hour less sleep :(
<6> im not waiting up for that.
<5> however, i still slept untill 7pm
<0> mann
<1> that's alright, we don't want you there, makes it harder to talk about you, square
<6> oh right..
<0> this is bull****, how are they going to say its not available in my area but I could always get an oc3 in my area if I had the money. if the resources to get me an oc3 are there, then the resources for getting ftth are there aswell!
<1> lol, WRONG
<6> we doing isp support again?
<1> they're completley unrelated technologies
<0> they both use fiber!
<1> just because they have same bandwidht has absolutely nothing to do with whether they, or the ***ociated relsources, are available
<6> um
<1> hahahahahha
<6> what happened to roachclip?
<1> well when you put it thta way. :P
<0> don't they both use fiber?
<1> roachclip and cybergeek eloped
<7> TRIANGLE!!!!!!!!
<8> ziggyy: excessive lameness usually leads to a kick you know.. (reckless use of ? and/or !)
<6> eloped?
<7> hahaha
<0> ? okay I guess they both don't use fiber
<7> triangle: ran off and got married :P
<6> oh
<6> sweet
<7> !g define:elope
<9> As a dream symbol, eloping is generally, a fearful act. It suggests a union that is unacceptable by the waking world's view. If, in your dream, you elope with someone you know, it suggests an escapism approach to a situation, one in which your actions are not understood by others and perhaps even, by yourself. @ http://www.katiestanley.com/resources/dd/e.htm ( http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define:elope ) |
<6> its about bloody time
<7> !g define:eloped
<9> Sorry, no search results were found.
<7> triangle: wanna get married?
<10> Cameleon do you even know what an OC3 is...
<6> my gf would be jealous
<7> you have a gf triangle?!
<6> but, sure! why not?
<0> Phiber0pt really fast. thats what it is :-P
<7> what's her name? oval?
<0> honest I thought it was a fast line with a direct 100mbit connection
<10> OC is just the speed of a Sonet.... it's optical fiber...
<0> cool
<0> ftth is optical fiber too
<10> but you can have SONET of OC1 OC3, OC12, etc etc.
<0> ahhh
<10> OC-n n = 51.8mbit/s
<0> different types of fiber then?
<10> ehh kinda, just see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronous_optical_networking
<6> ziggyy, its Natalie, and my daughters name is Kelsea
<6> you have a problem with that bitch?
<10> and his son Octagon.
<10> Octagon Octavious Jr.
<6> shush, thats just between me and you.
<11> How would I get the key to create a new ISO file? HKCR\Directory\shell\TrevalTest\command\ key = %programpath%
<10> Every little thing that we do.. is just between me and you....
<11> I'm actually quite interested. :P
<0> but the fiber is already installed in the neighborhoods even before you get to take advantage of anything that uses it
<0> so how could you run an oc48 if the fiber opics lines don't have the right SONET?
<6> bed time
<6> bb
<6> um
<6> nn
<1> lol
<1> because they're completely unrelated
<0> okay
<0> obviously I don't know ****
<0> I'll read wikipedia for a while
<0> try to know a little something before looking like a complete fool again
<1> completley
<1> unrelated
<1> networks
<1> hell, I have fiber in my office, that doesn't mean I can hook up FTTH to house behind that building
<1> ha
<0> huh I'm reading that gigabit is different than oc192
<0> physics its the same. just light transfering through a mirror pipe
<2> keep reading
<1> and dsl and 230V AC are both just electrons transferring through copper. plus your modem into an outlet
<0> However, 10 Gigabit Ethernet does not explicitly provide any interoperability at the bitstream level with other SDH/SONET systems.
<0> but that doesn't have to do with the actual lines. thats just the systems sending the signal and receiving it, and how they interpret data
<1> course, here's another hint. there's more than one kind of fiber. single mode and mulltimode. the two types of fiber/operation aren't interchangable
<0> so who decides the what is put into the neighborhoods? what if some idiot put some cheezy fiber in the neighborhoods, and you wanted an oc3? they'd have to make new lines just for you? dig up all the dirt and everything?
<2> the telco decides, duh
<1> the person who actually foots the bill, since fiber isn't cheap
<1> esp as they flush the inground isntalls with nitrogen, which just adds to the cost, beyond the simple cost of the fiber itself, and the labor to bury/string it
<10> if you wanted to pay for an OC3.. they probably would install it for free.. with like a 6 year contract..
<10> OC3 is about $6000 USD per month...
<1> or more, dependign on telco, how close they have a line with enough bandwidth, etc
<10> yea but basically a 6 year deal for OC3, at 6000 a month is $432,000
<1> yeah
<12> thats a lot
<10> they would probably install it to your business for free, if it was accessable from the street...
<0> so if the telco just installed the fiber they needed for their phone lines or cable or whatnot and more expensive ones that oc192 servers could run on, if you wanted an oc192 server (theoretically) someone would have to dig up the dirt and put the new fiber in??
<10> you sure? ;)
<1> Only 5k/mo from Onetnet here in OK, but that's partially tax subsidized, and only for qualifying customers(schools, government offices, libraries, etc)
<12> wonder what type of connection gates or jobs has :/
<1> oc192 would almost alwyas be a new fiber run. something like an OC3, I could probalby get at office on current connedctions they already have run to the building
<0> all I'm saying is what if you wanted a service that used fiber different than the ones that are installed in your neighborhood. then what? thats my question
<1> know they offered us a DS3 a yera or two ago, cheap, as was just multiplexing lines they already had run to the building
<10> probably direct fiber to the campus at MS
<10> he doesn't live that far away
<1> call and ask Cameleon, that's up to the IS, etc.
<1> but generally, any problem can be solved if you throw enough money at it.
<10> none of you ever need fiber for anything personal... if you ran a small business, maybe for remote offsite mirroring to a EMC3 box, or something.. or if you were your own ISP company
<1> yep
<10> other then that... it wouldn't be much faster for surfing.. to be worth the money
<10> most client connections to web-sites/ftp are capped per session
<1> yep
<10> I've got 10mbit and I see some sites dog *** slow, even though I know I can do some speed..
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