<Sh4dowcat> seems like zonealarm isn't allowing it <Nitr0g3n> or sometimes doesnt show screen <anyweb> do you see 'starting windows xp' <Pawl> I removed ZA <Nitr0g3n> sometimes.. <Sh4dowcat> so za isn't the problem <Sh4dowcat> hmm <anyweb> try booting in safe mode (f8) <Nitr0g3n> when it does get there it just resets itself anyways though <Nitr0g3n> I cant boot safe mode either.. <Nitr0g3n> resets itself as well <Pawl> I'm on a router but the strange thing is I had Norton FW and it worked but removed it too now sends won't work