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<Darryl> man.. I still got one guy on the phone.. hurry up.. I wanna go home
<Darryl> I should walk over and hang up his phone
<blackdevl> why you need to wait for him to get off?
<blackdevl> its 5:01 your usually gone by now
<blackdevl> wtf
<SvX> ???
<Darryl> I gotta upgrade the firmware on the wireless router
<blackdevl> oh
<blackdevl> so do it
<Darryl> SvX: I don't know how
<Darryl> it will kick him off
<blackdevl> dude we got **** at work
<blackdevl> if i say theres an upgrade at 5pm
<blackdevl> i start at 5
<blackdevl> too ****in bad if you are using it
<blackdevl> we have approval meetings
<blackdevl> people get informed
<blackdevl> you need that
<Darryl> I usually do too.. in fact I usually do it in the middle of the day
<blackdevl> no reason why you should wait
<Darryl> but I like this guy
<Darryl> if he was a salesman he would have been kicked off long ago
<blackdevl> lol nice
<jez> Is there a way I can stop MS Excel autoconverting 2-2 to 2nd Feb? I actually just want the text "2-2" in the call
<^-Lord-^> format/cells
<ManKind> right click, formatting
<ManKind> pick one
<aryx> I'm making images for two types of computers, with two diffrent productkeys, one ask for activation, the other dosn't need to be activated...What is the diffrence between them?
<blackdevl> aryx one is volume license one isnt
<aryx> what is the other?
<blackdevl> oem/retail/msdn
<ManKind> one is retail, one is volume
<blackdevl> sup rap
<^-Lord-^> or it's already activated
<^-Lord-^> the sticker should tell you what kind it is
<jez> formatting?
<jez> what do i do there?
<ManKind> or go to start|programs|accessories|system tools
<ManKind> if activate now is there, it is retail
<ManKind> jez change formatting
<Darryl> ok time to go home
<blackdevl> you done already?
<ManKind> damn these confounded time zones
<Darryl> yea I'm a pro
<blackdevl> what router?
<Darryl> linksys
<blackdevl> oh
<blackdevl> lol
<ManKind> Darryl did you mod the firmware?
<blackdevl> cmon, pro at opening a webbrowser?
<jez> ManKind: care to explain how i do that?
<aryx> I'm installing with a key from msdn, so i guess it is volume licensing
<thompsonn> Can you somehow import different notations for Microsoft Word ? I need to use notation for relational algebra
<Darryl> actually.. you can't use the web browser anymore
<blackdevl> wha?
<Darryl> they have an updater utility that you have to use
<blackdevl> how is it done now
<ManKind> aryx not is isnt
<^-Lord-^> aryx: wehre did you get this key? are subbed to msdn?
<Darryl> yea its gay
<blackdevl> really?
<blackdevl> oh
<SvX> respect your elders aryx and stop being rude
<blackdevl> p***word tftp
<blackdevl> forgot
<blackdevl> aryx
<blackdevl> no
<ManKind> and secondly, we dont support illegal license usage
<blackdevl> you just said
<blackdevl> its MSDN
<aryx> ^-Lord-^ got a subscriberlogin
<blackdevl> so how does that make it volume
<ManKind> jez right click cell, format cells, number tab, change it
<aryx> hum, i'm not sure what defines volume licencing and what does not, is it a open license key then?
<ManKind> aryx a subscriber login doesnt make it legal for you to install wherever you want
<jez> ManKind: well i select General
<jez> then enter 2-2 again, it changes it back to a date
<blackdevl> format as text
<ManKind> jez are you serious or are you trolling?
<jez> ah cool
<jez> cheers
<blackdevl> aryx a enterprise or select licensing agreement is volume license
<jez> erm, i was serious
<jez> ...
<blackdevl> MSDN is a msdn license
<blackdevl> it is NOT valid for production systems
<aryx> ManKind have i said i'm installing whatever i want
<blackdevl> ONLY development
<ManKind> msdn is comprible to retail SKU
<blackdevl> MSDN is ONLY for testing an app on a particular OS
<blackdevl> for instance, checking compatability with vista
<blackdevl> thats it
<blackdevl> not for use
<ManKind> aryx sorry, you didnt, but chances are that you are out of licensing agreement with what you are doing
<blackdevl> i agree
<aryx> ManKind no, i'm trying to get around activating windows everytime i transfer an image
<aryx> so i guess i can't use the key on msdn if i want to do that
<^-Lord-^> so activate it, and then make the image
<^-Lord-^> jeez are you new?
<s-K-y> hey ^-Lord-^
<aryx> ^-Lord-^ I'm doing that, but i also run sysprep.exe and need to enter the cd-key, which is why i need to activate it
<^-Lord-^> hey bro
<^-Lord-^> ok then don't run sysprep
<^-Lord-^> he IS new
<s-K-y> tryin to activate a copy of XP?
<aryx> ^-Lord-^ i need to regenerate SSIDs everytime
<blackdevl> aryx dont activate
<^-Lord-^> so use SID changer
<^-Lord-^> damn
<^-Lord-^> what a rookie
<s-K-y> there used to be a way with SP1 install that you can pre-set the key
<^-Lord-^> can't now
<s-K-y> SP2 install's you can't now
<^-Lord-^> look
<^-Lord-^> if you only have 2 keys
<s-K-y> then you can only have 2 copies
<s-K-y> :D
<CyberGeek> :D
<^-Lord-^> then you can only install windows on TWO machines
<^-Lord-^> no need to keep generating multiple sids
<s-K-y> our office rools out about 10 machines a week
<aryx> I'm trying to make everything as automatic as i possible can, I'm planning on running Bart's PE to run via RIS to automaticly start ghost which again multicast images
<^-Lord-^> sounds to me like you're trying to pirate the keys on multiple machines
<aryx> ^-Lord-^ you have seen to many piratemovies
<^-Lord-^> oh you think
<Treval> Harrrr.
<s-K-y> we re-generate keys on each one
<s-K-y> takes 2min out of my time
<s-K-y> to re-enter the key
<s-K-y> no biggie
<blackdevl> aryx i remember you
<blackdevl> you are installing XP in a school arent you
<aryx> s-K-y i have 40 machines that needs new images once a week
<aryx> blackdevl true
<ManKind> aryx what will these machines you are deploying to be doing?
<blackdevl> dude, MSDN is NOT the way to go
<ManKind> aryx you may as well get warez if you are going to use MSDN that way
<s-K-y> well, one way is to do a snapshot of each one
<s-K-y> and put them onto DVD
<s-K-y> OR do a pxe XP boot
<^-Lord-^> bartpe
<s-K-y> or that
<blackdevl> bartPE itself is illegal
<aryx> why isn't msdn the way to go?
<^-Lord-^> no it's not
<ManKind> aryx either way, if you dont sysprep the images, they will all have the same SID which is not good
<blackdevl> aryx
<s-K-y> we image all workstations and servers here
<blackdevl> we explained it
<^-Lord-^> not if you use a legit copy of xp
<blackdevl> again


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