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<0> y4k == <not Defined>
<1> why doesn't Panda have a standalone av client anymore?
<2> because nod32 owned it
<3> it does.. that is the retail products.. Platinum and/or Titanium
<1> no
<1> they both include firewalls
<3> corporate is server based
<3> oh
<3> because firewalls are hot topics
<1> what did you think I was bitching about two months ago?
<3> install it withotu the firewall
<3> its not hard
<1> Darryl: then it kills all network access
<3> no it doesn't
<1> yes it does
<1> it's all over google
<4> ?? y4k2ban
<0> y4k2ban == If you're reading this, then someone's triggered a Year 4002 ban on you. You will not ever be allowed to come back here until the Year 4002. This will be your ONLY warning.
<3> thats not because you didn't install the firewall
<1> if you install it without the firewall controls it'll install the base firewall software but not configure it
<3> it has nothing to do with installing or not installing the firewall
<1> which is even worse
<3> there is a hotfix for that
<1> well at least you acknowledge it's a problem now
<1> unlike two months ago
<5> ?? omfg1
<0> omfg1 == <not Defined>
<1> this is why I don't like antivirus companies making firewalls or firewall companies going into antivirus
<1> I mean take a look at zonealarm
<3> probably because at that time it was only people bitching about it and not willing to help reproduce the issue because you all had pirated software
<1> it was VERY decent before they put antivirus into it, now it just crashes
<3> if you want the retail, just install it without the firewall
<3> but make sure your LSP stack is clean
<1> Darryl: you should implement an anonymous improvement submit system
<3> to help the piraters?
<3> pirates
<3> our webadmin product kills
<1> the more people who use your software the more bug reports you'll get
<3> its my favorite
<3> its all web-based
<3> very thin client
<4> when I tried it, it wasn't pirated
<1> and I've submitted plenty of bugs to symantec
<1> even though I'm not officially paying for the client
<1> it's not like those bastards ever listen though
<1> so eventually I stopped
<3> shadow: send any comments or suggestions to product.suggestions@pandasoftware.com
<3> you don't need to be registered to email them
<3> you will need to be to expect them to help you with them
<1> heh instead of bugging you? :P
<3> thats where I would send it
<3> I don't write the ****ing thing
<1> heh
<6> salut
<3> its it gets better, it makes my job easier
<3> if it rather
<6> hello
<6> i have a question aboout windows xp
<2> ?? ask
<0> ask == If you have a question, just ask it. Don't ask if you can ask a question. Don't ask who uses the product in question. And especially don't ask can someone help me. Just ask the damn question. We can't promise an answer every time, but we'll probably try -- if we feel like it and are awake. | dont know how to ask questions properly? go here http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
<1> bah if I could only figure out how to kill the god damned mcafee splash screen
<1> oh well can't have everything
<3> shadow: if you are looking for plain and simple antivirus, try the webadmin for sure
<3> its hard not to like
<3> I think there is a trial on the website
<1> Darryl: why would I install webadmin on a laptop which isn't even connected 99% of the time?
<6> i have mount a VPN server on my XP but i have only one connection at the same time do you know how configure xp for having many connexion at the same time ?
<3> well how do you expect to update your mcafee if it doesn't connect to the net?
<2> matrian74 mount vpn server?
<6> yes
<1> it updates when I do
<3> thats the only time webadmin would need to connect
<6> with XP
<1> hmmm
<2> you can have more than one VPN client connection. make sure you are using your local gateway as default
<7> im temped to sue my training providor
<8> matrian74, use a third party VPN server.
<8> matrian74, XP Pro will only accept a single incoming connection.
<7> for not allowing disability access
<6> yes but their are on includ in XP
<6> so
<6> ..
<7> Night-v6 incorrect
<2> so you can only have one connect to your xp at a time
<7> xp professional will allow upto 15 symaltanious connections
<6> if i can't mount more that one i 'll use a third party
<2> mount?
<1> Darryl.
<2> umoms mount
<2> more than one
<1> Darryl: to sum it up, this is what the various companies got right
<1> mcafee and symantec got the gui right, simple, no eye candy
<6> connecting more that one vpn a the same time one my XP
<1> panda, kaspersky, f-secure have great engines
<7> matrian74 you need a server os
<1> outpost firewall has the same no-frills gui design, but needs some recoding to put things into trees instead of dialogs
<7> matrian74 not xp pro
<6> OK
<2> matrian74 thanks for getting it
<1> so basically if someone could put, say Panda's av software into outpost firewall and combine the two, keeping the same no-frills gui
<1> it'd be one hell of an app
<1> the eye candy in most security software these days is just unnecessary
<1> I mean I want security, not Aqua
<6> ok thank for the reponse
<2> np
<3> most of the apps (from my experience) that are pure eye candy are the retail apps that are targetted to stupid home users
<3> most of the corporate apps are better for experienced users
<1> ya well I wouldn't be looking for enterprise stuff if the retail stuff didn't look like it was painted by a three year old
<3> right, but the majority of dumb home users won't use something unless it looks like it was painted by a three year old
<2> click this one button and all your worries will go away we promise (and enjoy our drarwing in the mean time)
<1> I mean some windows apps takes the gnome philosophy of "The user's dumb" to an extreme
<9> i hate non standard guis
<1> ManKind: forgot about the bsod when the program makes the wrong decision
<1> like Norton does 90% of the time
<9> lol
<9> we have offices out in Florida
<9> they installed Norton Internet Security
<9> f'n mess
<5> retards
<1> Norton Internet Security 2004 was the first version with activation
<1> you know what it's best feature was
<10> [M]ax looks like someone else ****ed up and i removed theirs:
<10> Removed ban '#windowsx!*@*' on #Twilight-Zone.
<5> that it ****ed
<10> sorry, thought i removed mine
<1> it had the propensity of crashing when you activated
<11> can someone help me with figuring out how to print out a list of all the available fonts on my computer while showing what they look like in one go?
<1> evidently Symantec hadn't ironed out all the bugs out of the activation engine
<1> activation via the Internet was fine, as soon as you had to phone up, the bloody thing crashed
<10> loool
<1> it was the same with the entire suite that year
<2> umoms the thing crashed
<10> *umoms crashed the thing
<3> nova scotia
<5> in soviet russia
<5> fries eat you
<2> bloody thing crashes umoms
<2> in soviet russia
<10> lol
<10> Darryl i know where that is now
<10> arent you proud
<3> why proud?
<10> dunno
<10> i was saying before how i dont know **** about canada
<10> now i learned some
<3> oh haha
<3> I was only saying it because that is where heartagrm is
<10> how you know? thats a isp there?
<10> where do you live?
<3> yea that's an isp there.. I am from nova scotia
<3> but I am currently in toronto
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