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<0> get him off of me
<1> Perfekt: sorry baby, its 3some time
<2> wanna ride the horsey, roto ? ;)
<0> :S
<1> okay!
<2> WEEEEEEEE
<3> Perfekt im still safe
<2> nay nay nay, etc
<2> you've never been safe, max.
<3> define safe
<3> :P
<2> reasonably responsible around children/women/animals. can be left and trusted. not gay.
<2> = safe
<2> :D
<1> everything Thadius isn't
<3> lol
<3> read this and tell me its wrong
<3> City of Orange City, Florida -- Welcome to The City of Orange City
<2> you got pruddy lips
<3> ?? safe
<4> safe == <not Defined>
<1> you got a purdy mouf bitch
<1> i'm gonna make you my lady
<1> we gonna have a gooood time
<2> how much you weigh, roto ?
<1> 160
<1> IN MY PANTS
<2> mwhahaha
<3> !learn safe :Thadius says: reasonably responsible around children/women/animals. can be left and trusted. not gay. = safe | roto says: everything Thadius isn't
<1> pwnt
<2> indeed
<1> fatty
<2> i got a lil bit of a belly
<1> im gonna go drop a few pounds right now
<1> bbl
<2> .5" of insulation to cool my 6pack
<2> :D
<2> enjoy!
<5> anyone here know a bit about the IT field?
<5> does it matter where you get a degree in computer engineering from?
<5> or is one as good as any other pretty much?
<3> dobberz degree's mean ****
<3> you need real world experiance
<2> aslong as the certificate is legit, it will give the same ammount of sway as any other
<2> and as [M]ax said...
<3> i knew somone with 12 ms certs behind him
<2> means **** if you have no idea
<3> and he didnt know how to build a computer
<5> well degrees will get your foot in the door right?
<5> i dont buy that crap max
<5> ive heard that before
<2> i have to put up with an IT dept. that are straight out of university... with all thier flashy certs
<2> and the guys couldn't start a windows machine
<3> serious
<3> this guy was straight out of ms camp
<5> look , im talkin about makin money, not impressing all my fellow geeks
<5> for god sakes
<6> is ^_Lord_^ still around?
<3> and so are we
<2> up until 6 months ago... our company ran a server that did everything from orders to data storage for personal files, aswell as all our applications... on unpatched RedHat 6.0
<3> you need real world experiance
<5> what do you mean by that?
<5> what qualifies as real world experience?
<2> i used to have access to my bosses personal files, aswell as my own, and everyone elses pay records.
<3> dobberz what do you know at the moment?
<5> so your saying if you come out of a university with a degree in computer engineering nobody's gonna hire you?
<5> i can get my way around windows
<3> no
<5> thats about it
<3> people will hire you
<3> its just will you beable to do the job
<2> ie
<7> uh.. you need a degree to do engineering these days
<5> max.....it always just about getting your foot in the door
<7> IT is not computer engineering, heh
<2> if you know everything a cert needs you to know, doesn't mean you know anything in real terms.
<2> it will help, dobberz
<3> dobberz no
<5> its rare you walk into any job totally prepared
<2> but it will probably get you a job on a tech support help desk
<5> obviously you need to be smart/competent enough to adjust to the job
<3> most companies start with a 3month trial period
<3> if you cant cut it
<2> telling people how to turn thier pc's on
<3> your ****ed
<8> certs only mean you p***ed the test if you have no experience to back them up
<5> sweet
<5> 3 months is plenty of time
<7> heh i'd like to see someone get a job as a CE without a degree
<8> 3 months is nothing
<3> i know what i know over 12 years of learning
<3> and im still learning
<7> you know engineering, max?
<3> people hire me cause they know i know what i am talking about
<8> indeed
<3> i have no certs to my name at all
<5> exactly ziggy
<8> I put to practical use what people talk about. I make the nexessary things happen. that's why I am Director of IT Svces where I work
<5> saying that degrees arent **** is a bit of an overstatment
<8> I never said they weren't ****
<5> thats exactly what my friend was telling me the other day
<8> a degree says "I can learn"
<8> and "I have discipline"
<3> dobberz in real world terms they are not worth the paper they are writen on
<8> but they don't necessarily say "I know what I am doing"
<7> dobberz: these people are talking about getting a job as an IT or something.. that you might be able to get away without a degree if you have prior experience and can p*** an interview.. that's far from engineering where you need a very good grasp of engeering, physics, circuits, etc
<3> but they can help you
<7> which requires schooling
<3> ok
<5> i see ziggy
<5> im thinking either computer engineering or information systems
<8> two very different worlds
<3> degree computer engineering <-- what does that say to you?
<7> yep
<5> ya i know
<7> two different worlds
<7> like lord said
<5> lord.....
<8> ?
<5> information systems you think is more hands on?
<7> but if you like electrical stuff, hardware, etc.. you'd like CE
<7> i'm an EE myself
<8> hands on?
<7> def not.. CE is more hands on
<5> i mean like......you need to be flexible
<9> go read some program descriptoins from a school that offers the degrees/specialities you want
<8> not a debate I wish to participate in really
<3> dobberz can you please answer my question :)
<5> not as rigid of a job
<9> do that at about 3 different accredited universities
<7> bofh has the idea
<8> switching to laptop
<1> z1ggy is an electrical engineer?
<5> if i can find it
<9> then you'll have a better idea of the differences. Look at the required course list for each program too
<7> rotorface: almost
<1> z1ggy i would have thought you were an accountant
<1> cause you're a jew
<7> yeah i have a degree in finance.. but i like EE
<5> whats your question max?
<7> and sorry to burst your bubble but most people in the school of business at my unviersity were not jewish
<3> degree in computer engineering <-- tell me what that says to you
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