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<0> check the msdn cd's 0013.1 to 0649.3
<0> they include all the 2k versions we have
<1> does that Windows Update ISO have all the updates previous to January?
<0> yes
<2> ....
<1> so if I'm running Windows XP without any Service Pack it'll install all of that?
<2> Uhm I have to enter a cd key
<2> and it's oem
<0> Perfekt, the original question was though, why you have more trouble with the legitimate copy of 2k than with a pirated copy?
<1> isn't the serial integrated into the cd
<1> sif file or something
<3> guys I installed this program, dvdidle pro, uninstalled it and now everytime I run a media file It gives me an error saying it can't find dvdidlepro.exe
<3> how do I get rid of that error?
<0> get that and check for non-microsoft shell extensions http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.html
<4> **** need a inces to cm calculator
<0> remove all non-ms extensions that you do not want/need



<5> Ta1oN: hum, can you be more specific on the disc that contains the volume code for 2000? I'm only seeing straight 2000
<2> I dunno, you tell me why I'm having more trouble out of my real copy
<0> i have only the list on ms.com here at the moment... i would need to go down to our cd-storage room to check
<5> I could be wrong but my guess is you receive general 2000 and volume XP and 2003
<2> isn't it supose to be the other way around
<0> dunno if it's worth the hazzle on friday :P
<5> heh, yea I hear ya!
<0> Perfekt, what kind of trouble?
<2> well
<2> I installed windows updates right
<2> after its like you need to restart blah blah blah
<2> I'm like okay restart
<2> after that if it ends in microsoft.com
<2> it doesn't work
<5> If you check the pid= you can tell what type of bits it is we use 000 for retail OEM for OEM suppliers and 270 for volume users
<2> pid?
<0> product id
<2> and i do that were?
<5> that comment was for Ta1oN Perfekt :)
<0> hm, if i leave my office today, i'll look it up... if not, we can check that at monday
<0> i try to avoid all outside contact today ;)
<2> 51873-OEM-0000941-93434
<2> I'm pretty sure that means mines oem :P
<5> maybe you just set it up wrong this time and that's why it ****s :P
<0> heh
<2> I set it up wrong?
<2> I put the cd in and fell asleep
<2> when I woke up it was sitting at the desktop
<2> I think not :P
<6> hey.. would you guys rather get a 15.4 " ws, 14" or 17" ws laptop?
<7> 17" duh
<5> 17" WUXGA of course
<6> no wuxga
<6> just uxga
<6> err
<6> wxga
<5> I'd still go with the 17" but wxga is just nasty
<0> hm, we bought 3 sub-notebooks with 12.1"
<0> definitly not the kind of notebooks i like
<6> 14" = $736 w/ 1.86ghz (xga), 15.4" = $824 w/ 2GHz (wxga), 17" = $899 w/ 1.7ghz (wxga)
<6> dunno which to get
<5> I'd go with the faster 2GHz box unless it's a celeron or something lame
<6> na all are p m's with centrino
<6> that's what was deciding for me
<6> but the 17" has a 8 cell battery, where as the others have 6
<8> anyone know any good free games?
<5> I'd go with the 2GHz, process power is more useful to me then a screen size
<9> chiefwigm - get a tablet :)
<10> 15.4
<10> 17" is wayy to big
<5> 17" is nice if you can get it in wuxga :)
<6> i forgot the 40 off coupon too :)
<5> whom are you buying it through if you don't mind me asking?
<6> office depot ;)
<6> clearanced
<6> its between these:
<6> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BJGW6G/ref=pd_sbs_pc_2/002-1004853-6125649?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=541966
<6> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BKABC6/ref=pd_kar_gw_1/002-1004853-6125649?%5Fencoding=UTF8&%5Fencoding=UTF8
<6> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BJICIC/ref=pd_sbs_pc_3/002-1004853-6125649?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=541966
<5> eww Toshiba :(
<10> what are you using it for?



<6> coding and ****
<6> not much gaming
<10> http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?series_name=M2000Z_series&catLevel=2&category=notebooks/compaq_presario&storeName=computer_store
<10> turion ML 64
<6> those better than P4 m's?
<10> i think so
<10> i'm sure you could find some benchmarks on tomshardware
<8> that toshiba is a pos
<8> my sister has it
<8> dont waste your money on a laptop
<6> why do you say that
<8> i built a sick desktop for 1300$.. athlon x2 4400.. gig ram.. 128mb 6600gt.. 250gig hd.. all great hardware
<5> Toshiba laptops in general are POS we've had nothing but problems with them at work
<11> When Windows starts up, I can log on and the desktop background is displayed, but the start menu doesn't come up and disappears quickly if I run explorer from task manager. I've scanned for spyware and viruses and done a repair install. Any ideas?
<6> i don't want a desktop anymore though..
<0> does it do the same in safe mode?
<6> too much space
<0> and did you try another user profile?
<11> the last time I checked it did, I'll try again now
<8> drusscol: cntr+alt+dlt to bring up task manager.. kill explorer.exe and then run it again
<11> interfear: explorer.exe isn't running
<0> also check your shell entry in the registry
<11> talon: I don't have any other users, I guess I could try creating one
<11> where's the shell entry, and what should I look for?
<0> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
<0> go there, check for the value "shell"
<0> it should be "explorer.exe" without the ""
<0> and nothing else
<11> yeah, it's Explorer.exe
<0> also check for bad shell extensions... http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.html download that, and check for all non-microsoft shell extensions
<0> and make sure that there is only one explorer.exe on your system, and check the version number of it
<11> how can I check the version number if I can't open explorer?
<0> you can open taskmgr.exe, no?
<0> file->run->browse
<11> ah, true
<11> but how can I be sure there's only one explorer?
<0> open cmd.exe and type "dir c:\explorer.exe /a /s"
<0> may take a while, but it will list all explorer.exe files on your c: drive
<11> right
<11> hmmm, that does give me some idea of what's wrong
<11> when I went to properties to check the explorer version, it popped up a windows installer window prompting me to install services for unix
<0> did you have sfu installed?
<11> I did, on another partition I haven't copied over yet because the next thing on my agenda is to figure out this DDO stuff to break the 137 GB barrier in my BIOS
<11> maybe I should move that up my to-do list
<11> I forgot there was anything useful on that partition
<0> sfu is not just an addon or an emulator, that's a complete different subsystem for nt
<0> you pratically enhanced your nt machine with native posix support, if you remove the partition where the files reside on, you sure have problems, yeah
<0> and for this 137gb barrier... your bios needs to support lba48
<0> xp has support for lba48 since sp1
<11> I'm pretty sure it doesn't
<0> then you are out of luck and you should upgrade your mainboard
<11> so I have to use this seagate/ontrack software that came with the drive
<0> i wouldn't do that, if your system does not natively support lba48, you risk damaging your data in the long run
<11> how so?
<2> what is a good smtp and pop3 server for windows?
<0> cause your bios can't adress all the clusters it has to adress, to access space beyond 137gb
<0> and if you use some software to byp*** this problem, your bios still can't manage the number of adresses
<0> that is no setup i would trust
<11> my understanding was that the ontrack software fools/enhances the bios so it works
<2> I used it for a while
<0> Perfekt, windows server comes with a smtp server, and exchange has a pop3 connector
<2> I wound up with 3 dead hard drives
<2> in about 3 months
<12> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Syskonnect-PCI-EXPRESS-GIGABIT-ENET-NIC-1000-100_W0QQitemZ5859919286QQcategoryZ20319QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<12> is that loading for anybody?
<2> that enhancement stuff is crap
<11> how were they dead? physically? or you had to reformat? or what?
<13> gnight fellas
<11> and were they seagates or maxtors or what?
<12> ebay keeps returning " The eBay page or feature you are attempting to access is not responding."
<14> norm: if u go to a website, and it tells you that the page is not responding, its not something on YOUR end
<2> like dead in the sense you put them in and they spin up but the pc wouldnt recognize them anymore
<13> GOOD NIGHT xp99


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