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<0> well I am a reseller, but we sell HP desktops <0> not components very much.. its my father in laws pc and its 3 days outta warranty :) <0> and the wholesaleer won't budge <1> is there big difference in performance between PCI and agp videocard ***uming they have same gpu/chipset <2> depends on the pci and agp slot <2> there are different speeds for pci and agp slots <1> regular PCI <1> not express <2> 1.0, 2.0? <1> what computer uses pci 1 these days <2> normally though agp should be faster <2> a pci2.2 slot is faster than an agp1x though <0> imagine that :) <1> okay pci 2.2 vs agp 4x <2> agp 4x is double the transfer rate of pci 2.2. <1> is pci 2.2 really same speed as agp 2x ?
<0> oo oo /me waves his hand.. my turn <2> same transfer-rate, yes <2> transfer-rate is not always = speed though <0> and agp 8x is 4 x faster than pci 2.2 :) <1> then why is it called 2x <2> cause agp1x is slower than pci 2.2 <2> it's called 2x cause it uses a 2x multiplicator <2> just like your cpu... imagine it runs at 133mhz with a multiplikator of 10x, then it would be a 1,3 ghz cpu <2> same goes for agp... agp runs at 66mhz <2> 2x doubles this <1> but pci is 33mhz <2> no, pci2.2 is 66mhz <2> that's why i asked "which pci and which agp"? <1> ok <1> but does vidcard even take advantage of agp 8x speed <1> for example: sata = 150MB but no harddrive does taht <2> depends... just think about it this way: most games have much texture data <2> this data needs to get into the videoram somehow <2> agp8x can transmit a maximum of 2GB/s <2> as long as the agp bus gets the data fast enough, it will transmit it with 2GB/s to the video card <0> the thing is that its all kinda moot because if it needs to come off the hdd to start with .. ... <2> not really <2> most of the time textures go from ram to videocard <2> cause on hdd they are either compressed, or they even get calulated in ram <1> notworkn that's good point <0> Ta1oN: they got to the memory how? <2> if the texture data is in it's raw-form on the hdd though, then yeah, it would go from hdd to videoram <1> Ta1oN what about watching video from DVD <2> your dvd drive is hopefully set to use a dma channel <2> then it will directly stream the data to the ram <2> and video card will get it's data from systemram again <1> dvdrom is even slower than hdd <2> and for the question "how does it get into the ram": don't forget that your pc can cache data <2> i.e. your pc can read texturedata into the ram long before the video card needs it <2> it's only important that the data is in the video ram when the picture needs to be rendered <2> and if it gets there in time depends on availability of data and speed of the bus-system the data needs to use <1> when is that last time pcs used pci 1.x <2> hm... no clue -.- <1> pentium2? pentium1 days <2> somewhere around that time, yeah <2> not sure myself though <1> so agp 2x existed before pci 2.x ? <2> not sure either... historical questions are better answered by someone else :> <2> or google ;) <2> hm... btw, don't forget pci-x ;P <2> pci-x 2.0 for example is even faster than agp8x <1> right, i can't believe how fast it died <3> lol <2> it's not dead yet... but pci express will probably end the pci-x time before it even started :/ <1> my point exactly <1> even macs doesn't use it <2> i find it funny that back in school we always learned "parallel is much better than serial... it's faster and so on..." and nowadays, almost all is switched to serial <2> usb, sata, sscsi, pcie... <1> Ta1oN i noticed that too <1> parallel port was faster than serial port <2> yeah... parallel was always faster than serial... that was a fact for many years in computer history... but it seams that this ***umption was wrong after all <4> hi <5> What program would you guys recommend to copy over data over the network to a mount every night at midnight or something? <6> cp -R in crontab :) <2> robocopy? <5> Guybrush: Windows.
<2> robocopy? <6> oh right <6> lol <6> wrong window <6> :P <5> Guybrush: And I would use rsync on linux anyways... <5> Ta1oN: Hmm, thanks <6> foozaki: you could do the same tho <6> if you dont want to install crap <5> What? <6> just created a scheduled task that runs a batfile <6> just create <5> Yeah, I thought about that <5> Is that the best way to go? <5> Probably. <6> well, atleast it's fast and easy <5> I think I'll just do that <5> Thanks <2> um, that's what you should do with robocopy -.- <5> Ta1oN: Thanks <2> create a batchfile with the cmd and run it with task scheduler <2> robocopy is part of the support or resource kit tools <6> ah <6> robocopy is just a more fancy copy utility? <5> Guybrush: Yeah, appears so <5> Nice <2> a more, more, more fancy copy utility <6> cool <2> robocopy can do total mirroring of data <2> not just copying <6> maybe ill check it out then <2> and some other usefull things <2> like just copying changed files instead of all and so on <5> Yeah, that's what I know rsync does. Thanks Ta1oN. I got that. <2> np <6> http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/e/c/8ec3a7d8-05b4-440a-a71e-ca3ee25fe057/rktools.exe <6> this kit? <2> yup, should be the right one <2> "windows server 2003 resource kit tools" should be the name <6> this was for xp <2> then it's the old version <6> windows xp support tools <6> oh <2> one moment <6> so the 2003version works on xp <2> yes <2> the same goes for most ms-software <2> the more fancy stuff is called windows 2003 and is for xp too though <6> its here <6> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9d467a69-57ff-4ae7-96ee-b18c4790cffd&displaylang=en <2> platform sdk for example... it's called windows 2003 platform sdk, but includes everything for windows xp and 2k development <2> yeah, that's the right one <2> i install it on all my pc's normally... very usefull tools in there <6> yeah looks like it <2> same goes for the support tools which are on the xp cd <6> thanks for the tip <2> np <7> http://www.helpwinmybet.com/ <7> help the man out people <2> hm, soon he'll have it <2> 1,93 million hits already :> <6> was 1.7 mill an hour ago <6> 1.97 now <8> Hi does anyone know the term I'd use when searching for a card to transfer a VHS video tape to my computer? <2> any videocard with a video-in <8> ah thanks <9> 2mill... <2> or look for a tv-card... they all have video-in <8> Ta1oN, can you get cards that do that that I don't have to actually install into my HD...ie are external? <2> possibly... but i know of none <8> k <8> thanks
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