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<Dov-work> "don't think" ;)
<peerce> i'm front and center here -> http://www.hogranch.com/digi-2006/2006-01-28/slides/IMG_5096.html (in hte tie-dye shirt). took that with a tripod and selftimer :D
<Dov-work> With sunnies?
<peerce> yeah
<Dov-work> You look like a paler version of sAMOa there :)
<peerce> death valley has awesome sunsets http://www.hogranch.com/digi-2006/2006-01-28/slides/IMG_5106.html
<peerce> heh. http://www.hogranch.com/digi-2006/2006-01-27/slides/IMG_5071.html
<peerce> it was cold up there.
<Dov-work> I'm still cackling about the link sartan posted earlier www.fu-fme.com
<sartan> haha Dov-work
<Dov-work> :D
<sartan> it was rooted a while ago
<Dov-work> ?
<sartan> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4436100861
<sartan> mmm.
<sartan> but they GOUGE on shiping
<sartan> super wholesale deals
<Dov-work> Have you slept yet dude?
<Dov-work> You know what's scary, they sell $19.95 drills, jigsaws, angle grinders, etc at K-mart.
<Dov-work> You would think the mechanics involved would cost more just from overseas.
<peerce> Dov-work; those things are disposable junk, wouldn't survive one day of a contractors work.
<Dov-work> Oh definitely, only for light home use.
<peerce> imitation tools
<Dov-work> Even then I'm sure it would break easy.
<Dov-work> I would actually be afraid to use a $20 angle grinder. Who knows what could happen ;)
<sartan> i need an angle grinder
<sartan> i need to remove a bike lock (And subsequent bike) from my mothers house
<Dov-work> Heh.
<Dov-work> Too noisy for a job like that.
<peerce> sartan; cutting torch is the only thing that really works on locks
<sartan> peerce: really? :/
<sartan> i need to get a locksmith out there.
<peerce> grinders will be hellishly slow to go through a decent padlock with a hardened shackle
<sartan> the lock is shot i tried drilling through the core
<peerce> if its a cheap*** padlock, you could try a big pair of bolt cutters, ditto on the cable/chain.
<sartan> no it's one of those $1500 guarentee bulldog bike locks
<sartan> lost the key a long long time ago
<peerce> torch will go right through it.
<peerce> oxy-acetylene cutting torch
<peerce> know any welders?
<sartan> wonder if could rent one for a day.
<sartan> although i bet i have to be certified
<sartan> peerce: sorta. rather not call the guy
<sartan> he wants boobs.
<sartan> he's weird
<peerce> hahahah. manboobs?
<sartan> he wants a *** change
<sartan> he dresses in womens clothing at night and goes to bars to pick up men or .. or i dont know
<peerce> oh, he wants his OWN boobs.
<HawkBlah> Ugh
<HawkBlah> The more I read, the more I wonder if I really want to make a try at the wedding world.
<HawkBlah> (Photographically speaking that is)
<sartan> naturallyt
<HawkBlah> Yeah, you just want me to so when you finally decide to tie the knot you can talk me out of a deal.
<HawkBlah> :-p
<HawkBlah> The money is hella good tho.
<HawkBlah> But, its not "easy" money.
<sartan> i could do it
<sartan> get married that is
<HawkBlah> I was about to say.
<HawkBlah> Fortunantly tho, I have the high level of social skills that are required.
<sartan> are you saying i'm inept
<sartan> http://www.mistrust.ca/gallery2/v/banfftrip/00025.jpg.html <- haha. <3 focus
<peerce> there's no way those little P&S cams should be more than about 3Mpix, they just don't have the optics :D
<sartan> yeah? =)
<sartan> there is a lot i have to learn about cameraplay.
<sartan> but i need to get out and practice more
<peerce> hell, my Canon EF28-105 isn't really good enough for the 8 Mpixel imager on my Rebel XT... http://www.hogranch.com/digi-2006/2006-01-28/IMG_5096.JPG (thats a 3.5MB 8Mpix image)
<sartan> but you're not viewing the full dpi
<peerce> that is the full DPI there
<peerce> oh, on that other one? yeah, I did. :D
<sartan> on a window or a print... that 'focus' stuff blends in. ya know? i don't know what the word is but after a certain point it doesn't matter
<peerce> well, its masked somewhat, but a sharper crisper picture makes a better print anyways
<sartan> if i treat my 5 megapixel camera as a 3 megapixel camera i'll have crystal clear 3mp pictures.
<peerce> heh, on my pix, see the two on the right with 3D gl***es on? :D they are a couple jokers
<sartan> i see you with the pink shirt.
<sartan> middle row left was giving the finger.
<peerce> and my tequila cup on a chain :D ... ah, yes, the AdvRider official salute :D
<sartan> haha
<peerce> me and some camp mates polished off a whole bottle of Patron that night :D
<sartan> only 1890 pages of ebook left.
<HawkBlah> Meh
<HawkBlah> This damned book from the library is missing a page.
<HawkBlah> Hmmm, well I guess that technically it means its missing 2 pages.
<Ted-Lap> ellen's on an all protein diet for 2 days
<HawkBlah> TMI
<HawkBlah> I've already read enough about your *** life in here in the past couple of days.
<HawkBlah> :-p
<Ted-Lap> haha
<Ted-Lap> no, not like that
<Ted-Lap> she's eating some dungeness crab right now, she had tuna for lunch, chicken for dinner last nite
<Ted-Lap> ugh, i couldn't do it
<Muligan> wow, CA's Pest Patrol 8 looks a bit cheesy
<peerce> CA stuff is generally garbage
<Muligan> peerce: what all products do you deploy?
<chamois> </s4m04>
<peerce> I am not in regular IT as in desktop support, I don't deploy ANY of that ****. but CA would be way far down on my list of ANY software product as everything of theirs I've ever touched has been crap.
<Muligan> hmmm
<HawkBlah> Okay, I thought Joe-* was Skoal-Jr?
<JPC1976> has anyone used this gotomypc stuff?
<sartan> apparently it works.
<sartan> probably easy to rely on
<sartan> it's written by Citrix
<JPC1976> ?
<JPC1976> i don't understand how a corporate firewall would let you connect to a work pc
<JPC1976> like does it run on a random port?
<sartan> i think it uses http
<JPC1976> oh
<HawkBlah> But still, whatever the port ... the firewall still has to allow it.
<JPC1976> yeah...
<JPC1976> but if its web somehow
<JPC1976> ....
<JPC1976> i dunno that weired
<JPC1976> wierd*
<sartan> there's supposed to be some sort of admin guide
<sartan> but you can't read it until you buy it
<JPC1976> and...
<JPC1976> how even if you "register" your ip...
<JPC1976> its going to be an internal address
<sartan> well...
<sartan> i imagine it makes a persistant keep-alive HTTP connection just as you would connect to an http proxy
<sartan> it makes sense to me.
<sartan> i could draw an mpspaint diagram!
<peerce> gotomypc, the target PC connects OUT to them, and they hook your client into it
<peerce> evil ****.
<peerce> any business in their right mind would ban that crap
<JPC1976> yeah
<JPC1976> but how does the client request the connection?
<sartan> gotomypc.com !
<JPC1976> site is down
<sartan> everything is controlled through http tunnels to gotomypc
<peerce> the PC at the business site has a HTTP connection that its always pinging every 10 secs or whatever
<sartan> https://www.gotomypc.com/en_US/entry.tmpl?_sid=69616539%3A6E053E0F9F32D8E&Action=rgoto&_sf=2 works fine for me.
<sartan> ever set up a raw socket application running over an http proxy?
<peerce> then your client connects to gotomypc, and they route the command and control packets between them
<sartan> it's the same deal.
<JPC1976> hmmm
<JPC1976> never setup anything over an http proxy
<Ted-Lap> http://images.tmbo.org/mirror.php/offensive/images/picpile/BallWack.gif
<windblows> hello everyone
<windblows> please forgive my nick
<windblows> it appears that this machine can not go to https/adwords.google.com/select/ but all other machines on my network can. I have tried going to that site from firefox and IE6 and they both come back as unreachable. Yet my other machine on the same exact network can.
<z0g^> Heh. Yahoo has recommended Puccini: Madama Butterfly based on my past music choices. :D
<windblows> can someone point me in the right direction
<windblows> ?
<sartan> windblows: using any extensions in firefox such as adblock?
<windblows> no
<windblows> but IE 6 wont let me get there either
<sartan> oh, i see
<peerce> holy crap. http://ca-stu.smugmug.com/photos/54483645-M.jpg the dirt on the ice is **** they'd thrown on there for more traction, originally, it was a smooth slab of hard ice :D


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