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<0> Almost every educational provier will give you sample test references.
<1> some have the ability to click back
<1> I have access to test king, transcender, and also Skillport through work.
<1> I have done all three.
<1> Each is different.
<1> Hence my question :)
<0> So you shouldn't have anything to worry about if you p***ed them with ease.
<0> Transcender bein ght emost popular and widely used.
<0> Of course they will have different questions, you need to be able to adapt to each format.
<1> nod
<1> When you did the test, did you find it easier to read the entire case study beforehand then try the questions or refer back to material based on the question itself?
<0> If you do not feel comfortable, postpone it until you do. It's a costly excersize for repeats.
<2> what cert?
<0> Clocks, each question had it's own method of being answered.
<2> what cert are we talking here
<3> GAWD. IDIOT.
<0> I don't want to give away anything just for you to go to the exam and use what was in my test to find out it is completely different in yours.
<0> XTR, <3.
<3> I love you.
<0> k.
<1> Lol, fob
<0> I want to watch Silent Hill.
<0> Looks good.
<1> Logikal: 70-297
<1> designing active directory infrastructure
<4> Clocks: might as well take a crack at it
<4> you can retake exams for free until july
<0> Clocks, do you have any personal experience?
<4> 1 retry though
<1> ive already p***ed the other 6 and have studied for a week for it. not looking for answers as I already know the material (or as well as I will know it before test anyway) but rather the specific format availibility to prep to take the test using one of two testing methods.
<0> sartan, is that just Northern America?
<1> Yes, Dov.
<1> I work for a MS owned company.
<0> So then that will be a great aid.
<1> They recently required us all to get MCSE>
<3> omg.
<1> So now ive been testing for a while.
<0> Clocks, on your own investment, or theirs?
<1> 6 tests in 5 weeks.
<1> thiers.
<4> brutal.
<0> So don't worry your little head too much about it ;)
<4> little head!
<4> teehee tiny
<3> ralf.
<3> OPOLOGIZE.
<1> sartan, not really, 40 hours a week is a long time to study :)
<4> Clocks: i know. i was going through the same thing a few weeks ago =/
<4> though not microsoft
<1> Nod.
<1> Ill go MCSE:Messaging next week, and then not sure after that.
<0> CCIE. Sartan is a guru.
<1> Figure CCNA will come in handy.
<1> CCIE and CCNP are way too deep for how much I deal with the networking component
<0> Clocks, you doing Exchange?
<1> Yeah, already an MCSA:Messaging
<1> Alot of customer deployments.
<1> Its a really popular migration project since the 2003 release.
<0> Ok, so you need your second electorate.
<4> a+!
<1> Rofl sartan! As-if!
<0> a-.
<4> i stopped writing exams.
<4> =(
<4> demotivated
<4> too expensive.
<3> ;(
<1> Another one im thinking about doing is SANS GSEC
<1> although that will require my manager sign off on it so I need to put some justification before they will pay for me to go after that.
<3> Anus.
<0> Anus+.
<5> GSEC is a good cert
<5> although imo its kinda lame now that you dont have to do a practical anymore
<5> that was the whole value
<3> Which one is that Pfft.
<1> Indeed, I know someone who helped write it, and are themselves GSLC gold.
<5> GSEC is sans' kinda baseline cert
<5> write what ?
<3> :(
<0> Turn your frown upside down.
<5> i was on the gsec advisory board until they got rid of the practical - then i quitz0red.
<1> Yeah, frankly, my main thrust is in operations and email systems. Networking and security are nice to haves that show the client that im not just a microsoft monkey
<1> I know how to work with some other odds and ends.
<0> There is actually more money in MSDBA though.
<1> I bet there is.
<0> All my MPc's are in Windows/AD/Exchange/ISA.
<3> Pfft I'm drunk.
<0> *MCP.
<1> Have you messed much with the new ISA?
<4> i'm only mcsa 2k =(
<1> <3
<0> Yes.
<4> but i don't even work with windows, so that's teh winz
<3> I'm MCSE NT4.
<1> God it makes 2000 look like shoddy crap.
<0> I'm MCSE with an extra couple of MCP's :)
<3> Damn n00bs.
<0> The web interface is sooo much purrdier.
<4> <certificate alphabet soup>
<0> XTR, Novell kthx.
<1> VPN isolation and provisioning is awesome.
<0> Yup.
<3> omg.
<1> Also, the SSL bridging is great for doing deep packet inspection on encrypted packets
<0> It's definitely a hrdcore solution.
<1> its something that really came out as a threat after 2000 was released and was too exntensive a change to be implemented on top of 2000
<0> I haven't used that in practise, but it was great in theoretical examples.
<1> It slows down the traffic stream marginally, boosts the processing overhead on the ISA server significantly, but definitely closes what has become an increasingly big hole in enterprise infrastructures, namely encrypted "dark" packet based attacks.
<0> Omg XTR killed Kenny.
<3> OMG.
<3> So drunk.
<6> APOLOGIZE.
<0> poor kenny :(
<6> YOU BASTARD.
<0> :)
<3> :(
<3> I'm sorry.
<0> Good thing about ISA is that it's not a product that you can set and forget. You actually need someone with level experience to push out rules, etc.
<0> I mean Exchange is mostly AD based, and Windows Servers are point and click, but ISA does require a lot more effort to get going, especially with AD.
<3> Oh shuddapo.
<0> I mean you have to create bloody wpad addresses for DNS!
<1> Yeah, definitely, although it is more than just a firewall solution this time around
<0> Application firewall.
<1> VPN, including VPN isolation, integrated app level fw, network based IDS
<1> Active monitoring is essential although you can decrease the admin load using MOM management packs
<0> That's what made it so unique. The ability to segment networks by application/port/etc.
<0> Yeah I still need to play around with MOM.
<0> (Waits for XTR's comment).
<1> so if you have a well deployed AD infrastructure, a MOM deployment will allow you to decentralize administration into instance-based checking, allowing your admins to be freed up a bit to work on other things.
<0> I will have more use with it once I redeploy SMS.
<1> nod
<1> MOM and SMS is a very powerful combination, particularly in a sarbanes-oxley world.
<0> Just makes administration that much easier ;)
<1> Regulatory and legal responsibility has been a big driver into ensuring that licensing and deployments are done on time properly and that patches are easily deployed and accountable.
<0> I still run thrid party vulnerability checking tools.
<1> Getting sued because you lost customer account data due to not having a reliable windows update infrastructure and policy is not uncommon of late :)
<0> GFI for one.
<3> Too drunk.
<7> and it gaurantees lifetime employement for all kinda otherwise useless blobs who can now be 'compliance auditors'
<0> peerce, ahahaha.
<1> rofl
<1> aint that the truth
<1> oh, and it pumps up that once-ignorable figure "compliance costs"
<0> Which has a drastic effect on the IT budget as a whole :(
<3> It's all about TCO.
<1> AND gives all kinds of consultants a new TCO avenue to prove MOM/SMS infrastructure costs via risk analysis of regulated enterprises.
<1> Heh, XTR beat me to it.
<3> Hold me.
<0> Amidst XTR's madness, there is a level of intelligence there ;)
<3> Defintieyk.
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