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<0> flakey how?
<1> sometimes if you push a drive back in too hard, it disconnects a neighboring drive for a fraction of a second, and the whole ****ing array fails
<0> i have a client with those
<0> really?
<0> they've never had that problem
<1> Yeah. its pretty crummy. so i will power down that server to change a drive. fortunately none have failed yet.
<0> so it's an enclosure issue
<1> sorta makes hotswap worthless eh
<2> i've seen various bits of strange with 3ware and sata
<1> never had a problem with enterprise grade scsi solutions from HP/Compaq or LSI Logic
<2> my favorite is when a perfectly working drive is a little slower or faster then the rest and the 3ware drops it as incomplete
<0> well you're whiteboxing raid
<1> yeah and dont think i ever will again
<0> i honestly think it's just the enclosure
<2> oh god
<3> z0g^; I'd blame that on the supermicro ch***is
<2> and the new tyans we've been trying
<2> total suxors with any add on raid card
<0> which tyans, the opteron ones?
<2> no
<2> dual xeon
<2> 53 something
<4> i agree, you guys are boring me
<2> we dont do opteron cause the boards still **** =/
<2> Id like to
<1> no they dont. they rawk :D
<0> serverworks chipset
<3> Badtzmaru; screw boards, check out the new Sun opteron servers
<2> even the sunfire was meh
<2> peerce: we have
<0> also, the nf4 pro tyan board != ****
<3> Badtzmaru; was that the first one, or the new one?
<2> the low end ones = ****
<3> the first one was just a tyan
<2> we have no use for the others as a stocked machine
<3> the new one is a sun custom design, much better engineering
<0> serverworks, but kinda boring -> http://tyan.com/products/html/tigerk8ssa.html
<3> re: SATA hotswap, I did a bunch of hotswap tests with this system -> http://www.intransa.com/products/system.php?PHPSESSID=7dab58e5813287a2808fb034270c4814 (the IP5500), and had ZERO problems with their ch***is.
<2> both actually. I didnt deal with the newer one, but as theres no PCIE sata raid ou that doesnt **** yet, useless to us for now
<0> nf4, sweet -> http://tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8we.html
<2> though 3ware is supposed to have something out soon
<0> Badtzmaru, but there is plenty of pci-x
<3> Badtzmaru; **** internal raid. server cl*** **** should be fiberchannel -> SAN
<1> Thunder K8WE is bad***. we run them at my company too.
<0> i have one that has 8 1gb sticks in it
<0> no issues
<1> Yep. both of ours run 8 sticks of 1gb ddr400
<2> peerce: sure. but for $400 a month for 1u, its internal raid =)
<0> which is nothing new for intel/tyan, but for the faster amd chipsets, it's nice
<5> nothing wrong with internal raid
<3> this is a VERY nice RAID... http://www.sun.com/storage/midrange/6000/6100/6130/index.xml
<2> and areca is the only pcie and it ****s.
<3> the base unit with the dual controllers is FC drives, but the expansion bays can be SATA or FC (14 drives per bay)
<0> well on the nf4, those two pci-x slots are on different masters
<0> peerce those are good
<0> pwn in fact
<3> its actually an Ingenius RAID
<3> sun ch***is engineering
<6> teebsgrrl
<2> peerce: we have a customer with a rack full of those.
<6> teebsgrrl, you around?
<2> we whitebox most of our internal stuff though
<1> excellent. www.janisan.com is a neat website. all the janitorial supplies you can imagine at low prices and without a minimum order.
<1> ill hasve a huge box of paradichlorobenzene toilet bowl fresheners this week :D
<3> this is some excellent midrange storage stuff too -> http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=1&catalogId=-840&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73&categoryId=2579681&x=12&y=5
<3> Badtzmaru; check out Intrnasa
<2> peerce: we's cheap when it comes to that kind of thing (for internal stuff)
<2> 3wareMI's + decent ch***is = works just fine
<1> Wow. thats a hell of a storage server
<0> i want to see someone do something interesting with the saavio drives
<2> we have a couple of 24 drive boxes with 300 gig drives that have Just Worked
<2> so its good enough for me!
<3> Badtzmaru; with an intransa ip5500, you'd have a storage pool of 16*400GB drives that you could slice and dice any whichways into any number of virtual disks you want, and hook up to all the hosts via gig ethernet.
<7> lo
<3> so if customer on server 15 needs more space, you can just grow their LUN
<3> clik click, done.
<2> peerce: we do fiber to gige switch, and can do pretty much the same
<3> yeah, but fiber is $$$$$
<2> its already there.
<2> doesnt cost us anything for the port
<3> this is pure ether and SATA drives and it screams.
<0> fiber isn't more then what, $2/foot?
<8> Does XP allow me to remote desktop to it and connect as administrator while another user "Joe" is logged on locally?
<3> Gimp-Cow; try $1000 per port
<0> it can't still be THAT expensive for the media itself
<2> nah
<3> and $1000 per switch port
<0> yeah
<2> you can do fiber much cheaper than that
<3> ok, $700 for qlogic HBAs
<0> yeah i know you can
<3> and all those pesky interoperability problems, ugh.
<9> poo
<2> if you are going direct to a core port maybe, but our backup stuff (which is what thats mostly used for) is ll internal
<2> and the backup stuff screams too!
<2> (with a bit of tweaking)
<2> faster than our mac NAs thing to boot
<3> holy crap, its HOWLING outside.
<3> ;-/
<2> Mmm
<2> gf's cooking smells good
<10> whats a good low fat firewall for windows
<8> kerio
<10> i used to love sygate until they sold out and symatic bought them out
<2> the one it comes with.
<10> is it comparable
<2> cant get much lower fat then that.
<8> kerio 215, zone alarm people like..
<8> outpost...~
<3> kerio personal firewall is discontinued
<9> hillery duff was on elen today and she said she had a potty mouth and elen said o you have a dirty mouth i wouldnt have known that and hillery said no i have a potty mouth not a dirty mouth think she likes the pee in the mouth?
<3> ;(
<8> Do NOT install kerio 215 in Windows 2003.
<8> You will bluescreen on reboot forever more.
<11> peerce: I was robbed... we got no real rain. Just some sprinkling
<8> And it will happen again if you reinstall the OS and try again..
<8> :p
<11> I wanted a downpore
<11> Is hillery Duff old enough to say she's damn hot yet?
<11> maybe move that "yet" to after "enough"
<9> i think just barely but dont get her drunk
<2> who is hillary duff?
<11> Badtz: teen actress
<3> Cody`; judging from the radar... oh fawk, blinking igths
<12> she's 18.
<3> judging from the radar, LA is getting nailed
<11> http://images.google.com/images?client=opera&rls=en&q=hillary%20duff&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&sa=N&tab=wi
<3> power is flicking, awe ****
<11> wow
<3> again
<3> :(
<11> yeah, it's clear here now.
<3> somethign musta hit a pole
<12> nah. it was a slav.
<11> I'd like Hillary Duff to "hit my pole", if you know what I mean.
<3> its still on here, but blinked a bunch
<3> oh, puhleez, she's a typical hollywood bitch
<12> i guess the "britney" phase has p***ed.
<3> muahhahahaha
<9> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5295783370109329036
<9> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3037012766738965874
<13> god, she has no talent
<11> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/2006_swimsuit/models/06_maria_sharapova_5.html
<12> this is pretty mindless stuff.
<11> Must be nice to be *THAT* guy
<11> god, the more popular google video gets, the more people will like to media on their service
<11> the harder it will be to get video that doesn't totally ****ing ****
<9> is that her dad?
<14> Alienware rulez
<13> it rulez idiotz
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