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<0> From Microsoft?
<0> Dig around on their site.
<1> yeah, found it - just wondering if there was anything beyond the corpo-speak
<2> what backup utility would you guys recommend?
<2> is the windows one good?
<3> I added a line to %systemroot%/etc/hosts, <IP> <name> with the intention of mapping a drive letter to an FTP, doesn't seem to work
<3> any other way to do this?
<4> map teh drive letter to a share like mapping is intended
<5> webavant: My Computer, Map Network Drive
<3> can't create a share...
<3> i know how to map a network drive, but to an FTP server
<6> you can't map ftps
<4> then just do ftp as needed
<6> for a reason
<3> you can, but it requires proprietary software
<6> yeah
<6> it's stupid
<6> you have _no_ reason to map an ftp
<3> it's stupid that windows programs can't store data to servers
<7> it's %systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
<6> if you think you do
<8> its called my network places
<6> you're doing somethign wrong
<8> and i knew pb would correct that
<4> windows programs can store data to servers
<4> its called mapping a share
<2> pale_blue what backup utility would u use
<2> i want to make an EXACT image of my c drive right now
<8> ntbackup
<2> exact as in every single piece of data
<8> well that doesnt create images
<8> but yes
<4> if you boot off of the drive, ghost
<8> it will backup every single peice of data
<7> so you want an image program, not a backup utility.
<3> so you're trying to say that without setting up Samba, I won't be able to map to the server?
<2> backup utility that will output a backup image
<3> what about SFTPdrive or WebDrive?
<3> Something like that would be nice if it weren't $300
<4> why are you making this harder than it has to be?
<4> set up samba
<3> I can't i
<4> map drive as needed
<3> it's on a proprietary server
<6> you couldn't backup your "exact" image to ftp anyways
<6> retard
<2> norton ghost good?
<3> drunkcow, you're crossing two converstations
<4> then get something that does what you need
<6> webavant, i don't really care
<3> i didn't ask about backup...
<5> Samba doesn't work very well over the Internet. SMB wasn't made for any type of low-bandwidth situations.
<6> you sir are retarded
<4> rather than working with something you seem not to be able to manage as you would like
<6> mapping an ftp is somethign the stupid do
<5> webavant: Maybe if you told us *why* you need this remote server mapped to a drive, we could possibly offer an alternate solution.
<3> calling people stupid is something stupid people do in an attempt to mask their own inadequacy
<8> you don't want to map anything that requires an explicit logon
<8> for backup purposes
<6> webavant, there is zero reason to map an ftp
<6> period
<6> whatever you are trying to do
<6> you are doing wrong
<3> because i don't want to schedule a task to copy data to an ftp server
<6> .
<8> how much data is this?
<3> gigs
<4> how many
<8> dude
<3> 10
<4> bah
<8> !info xy
<4> ssh that over once a night
<4> scp rather
<3> can't... only FTP allowed
<4> then ftp it over once a night
<6> digi ftw
<6> with that call
<8> well thats fairly enefficient as your problaby copying/backing up 95% static data
<4> grab win32 ncftp and use that.
<6> no matter what dude
<6> there is a scehduled task involved
<6> so wtf
<8> e/i
<4> if thats the only option it really doesnt matter
<6> bbl
<6> oblivion
<3> yeah... the backup is scheduled, but it won't save to a network share... only to mapped drive
<4> why not...
<4> just ftp it over
<3> so then i have to make a new scheduled task to transfer
<8> it will use a unc path
<3> kinda dumb really
<6> you do realize the performance hit involved with saving a backup file directly to an ftp right
<3> the ftp is on the local network
<8> id start looking for a better way to backup
<8> omg
<6> SO?
<9> OMG.
<4> this all sounds retarded mind you
<6> it's still a HUGE performance hit
<8> is the remote machine windows?
<6> you flaming retard
<6> someone ban him
<4> what are you backing up to that only allows FTP
<6> for stupid
<5> webavant: Make a batch file which makes the backup and/or compresses it, then ftps to the remote machine.
<3> the backup server at my hosting company... 1and1
<8> uh
<3> they only offer ftp
<8> your hosting company is on your local network?
<4> so this is your hosting server to thier backup server, and they only offer ftp?
<4> and you are hosting on a windows box?
<3> no.... it's backup server is on my servers local network
<4> digidog: backup servers are usually 10net, yeah
<3> yes the backup servers only offer ftp
<8> how is that local?
<4> local to the hosting server
<3> well local servers usually offer samba or netbios, but this one doesn;'t... i know it's dum
<3> dumb
<8> apparently i am confused, but it's not worth an explination, really
<4> webavant: then again, Id zip/tar/compress what I wanted backed up
<3> not really
<4> then ftp it over
<5> webavant: If it's in the local network, meaning LAN, then ask them to open up port 445 and 139.
<4> GenNMX: its more than likely not a windows machine
<4> probably a NAS appliance
<4> and they just give out space tocustomers as needed/requested
<5> Well if it's Linux, then ask them to open up NFS
<4> most wont =)
<4> cause they dont know how to secure it, or dont want to worry about it
<3> exactly
<3> so i'm faced with running AutoIT to ftp the data after the backup process completes
<6> you should be backing up locally
<4> though usually rsync and scp are options
<5> Then pick another web hoster, because your data is not secure if they are using an operating system they do not know how to secure!
<6> then transferring
<4> 1 and 1 must ****
<6> because windows does not cache before it writes to backup files
<6> and you will get terrible performance
<3> 1and1 does sorta ****, but it's $100/mo for a dedicated server
<6> local or not
<4> GenNMX: its fairly standard way of doing backups
<6> thus
<6> you are retarded
<4> in the hosting industry that is
<5> webavant: $100/month is not a good price...
<10> depends on what he's getting.
<3> it's good for dedicated
<4> for a dedicated server?
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