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<0> but they riot in the streets and hurt/kill people when you draw a cartoon of mohammed
<1> MarEakin: i like it!
<0> they seem to value human life ... zero...
<2> I mean, the rhetoric is nice. has nothing to do with reality, but isn't it nice :)
<2> don't think it is xenophobia when it is proven out every day :)
<2> whereas it is naive when you fall for the rhetoric instead of looking at reality
<2> PINWORMS
<2> oh.
<2> PINWORMS
<0> organized religion is scary
<2> indeed
<0> it wasn't so long ago that the christians were as brutal



<3> indeed. the spanish inquisition isn't exactly the model of enlightenment
<2> oh yeah. the catholic church used to be the bigggest terrorists on the planet
<2> but they moved on
<2> and that was long before our lives
<4> MarEakin, yea, they are nice, i have a few of those cables... unfortunately, not all drives work with it
<0> i dont know
<4> MarEakin, and i can't seem to pin down a pattern of which ones work or don't
<5> there has to be a way to recover this data hrmmm
<2> yeah. from your backup
<0> there are some scary speculations that gwb's intense drive to invade iraq also had to do with some christian beliefs
<2> unless you are too stupid to have one of those
<6> for thoe that odn't work i guess u have to mount it to yoyuur desktop
<0> lunatic ones :)
<2> yeah :)
<2> hehe
<2> oh well. it'll be interesting to see what happens with this afghan christian thing
<2> I mean, karzai better not let that **** happen
<0> what can he do !?
<0> hehe
<3> but I thought LIFE WAS SO MUCH BETTER IN AFGHANISTAN SINCE WE KICKED THE TALIBAN OUT ? I mean, I hear that nearly daily.
<7> anyone want ot check out an install log for me before I have to format my whole system?
<0> well.. it still could be better. nothing like how we live ... hell at least this execute a christian convert is seeing the light of day :(
<0> (not defending it ... but)
<2> yeah. before they'd not have bothered with an actual trial, ****ed as it would be anyway
<8> APOLOGIZE.
<2> I apologize for leaving your anus
<7> anyone familiar with windows installer services?
<3> !info MSDN
<3> documented extensively there
<8> It'll be ok Bart.
<9> hey how come my msn messenger always goes offfline by itself?
<10> It is a mood issue.
<3> maniacrip; more specifically, here -> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/msi/setup/windows_installer_start_page.asp
<7> well we went through all that, I'm just looking for someone to read the first 30 or so lines of it and help explain why msiexec would start up under task manager, but not show up on screen
<7> I know i spent all last night one here doing everything it said, like 3 people we're helping me, this is the last thing I want to try, but I need someone who knows what they're looking at
<7> I can figure most of the stuff out, but theres so much I'd prolly miss it, plus I don't know where to look
<3> maniacrip; is this a 3rd party software package you're installing, or an installer you're writing yourself?
<7> no no its halflife 2, and DoW. Those are the games that wont install, from image, HD, or CD. Other apps trying to use .msi to install also suffer symptoms
<7> so I know its a installeri ssue
<7> permissions are fine as far as I can tell, registered buttloads of dll's, reinstalled installer 3.1(2)
<3> if they are commercial packages that won't install, I'd talk with the software vendors.
<3> why? you shouldn't have to do any of those things.
<3> people buy that software all the time, install it, and it works.
<11> maniacrip: If you don't want to blame a bad install file, then reinstall Windows. It's either one or the other.
<7> cause it has to be my system, a microsoft app, a valve app and relic app?



<3> I vote 'your system'.
<7> I know
<7> ...
<3> how many hours have you wasted on this so far?
<7> thats why I want someone to look at the HL2 msi.log file
<7> like 1.5
<11> By now you could have backed up your data and reinstalled Windows from stratch.
<3> only people that would make sense to would be the developers of the HL2 setup package
<7> what?
<12> http://hammeroftruth.com/2006/03/24/neoprohibitionist-update-preemptive-war-continues-in-texas/
<11> Reinstalling Windows From Stratch -- It's An Enema For Your System!
<12> w0h0000
<3> "[13:42] <7> I know i spent all last night one here doing everything it said, like 3 people we're helping me" "[13:46] <7> permissions are fine as far as I can tell, registered buttloads of dll's, reinstalled installer 3.1(2)" 1.5 hours?
<12> arresting people at BARS for public drunkenness
<7> you're telling me the .log file for msi installations changes per vendor? you're crazy
<7> yeah check permissions, unregister/register every installer related .dll
<3> all that in 1.5 hours?
<11> FKnight`: I remember a comedian joking about that once, where they threw him out of a bar and he got arrested for "public drunkennes"
<7> peerce yeah you want to look at the log file or argue about nothing?
<11> FKnight`: He said, "I didn't want to be drunk in *public*, I want to be drunk in the *bar*, but that bouncer threw me out!"
<3> log file wouldn't mean squat to me without knowing the inner layout of the particular application's installation scripts.
<7> you could see if windows denied access to certain files?
<13> and bar owners have been sued for letting people get drunk at their business and letting them drive home (or do other things that harmed themselves or others)
<3> why would it do that? are you one of those people that tweak the **** out of stuff for no good reason?
<7> what are you talking? are you always beligerent?
<3> FKnight`; they justified it by saying those drunks MIGHT have driven drunk.
<3> did you know you can be arrested for what you MIGHT do?
<3> maniacrip; analyzing logfiles sounds like work to me. I do **** like that for $$$$ not for fun.
<11> maniacrip: Are you trying to install this under a Restricted / Limited account or an Administrator account?
<7> admin account
<7> you want to see the log file?
<3> not unless you want to pay me, and even then without your system in front of me, the probabiltiy of useful return is zilch
<11> Well, Automobile accidents are one of the leading causes of death in America, there's room to be concerned. Not that bartenders necessarily have to play Mom here.
<11> maniacrip: If you're Admin then there's no permissions problem.
<7> peerce, the stuff in this file is standard msiinstaller lingo, if you're going to be pompous than just forget about it
<7> I know there isnt a permissions problem...
<3> you know a lot.
<3> when did MSI installers first start giving you problems? you said you get this with everything you install...
<7> No I said its not with everything I install
<2> isn't texas the same state that does not have a law against open liquer in a car...or did they get rid of that? They had that when I was in san antonio about 25 years ago :)
<11> 18:02 < maniacrip> no no its halflife 2, and DoW. Those are the games that wont install, from image, HD, or CD. Other apps trying to use .msi to install also suffer symptoms
<3> "Other apps trying to use .msi to install also suffer symptoms"
<11> 18:02 < maniacrip> no no its halflife 2, and DoW. Those are the games that wont install, from image, HD, or CD. Other apps trying to use .msi to install also suffer symptoms
<11> Dammit
<7> sorry I thought I typed some other
<11> Hate it when it catches the linefeed.
<7> but like I said CoD2 installs fine, Bf2 installs fine, firefox, windows install cleanup
<3> so the problem is specific with one vendors installers?
<7> does ea and MS use the same vendor?
<11> maniacrip: http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=reinstall+microsoft+installer&btnG=Google+Search
<11> 1st hit using "reinstall microsoft installer"
<3> he said he reinstalled MS Installer.
<7> I already did that...
<11> maniacrip: Did you follow the reinstall procedure, or did you use the Windows Installer Cleanup Utility?


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