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<0> I grouped, cut, pasted, and ungrouped, that worked too
<1> but that's not possible! word doesn't do vector graphics!
<2> heh
<2> autoshapes are vector
<0> yea, ok. i was thinking embedded OLE object art like WordArt.
<3> SOME PEOPLE ARE DUMB
<3> "How do I restart if I can't move the mouse around?"
<0> anyways. I wonder if it got pasted as something else, via Paste Special...
<3> DUH!
<4> well it is ctrl +v
<4> dunno what happens then
<4> i can select the subparts of the group and they show a grey circled selection
<0> ah, paste special offers to past it as 1) Picture 2) MS Office Drawing Object, 3) Picture (enhanced metafile) 4) Picture (GIF), 5) PNG, and 6 JPPEG
<0> 2 is the default
<4> but not white circled and they move in a group
<3> WMF!



<0> if it somehow permuted into a EMF, yah, word probably can't edit that further other than size and placement
<4> oh well
<4> word is so annoying
<4> have to draw it once more just because i grouped and moved it
<0> I dunno, I grouped, cut, and pasted, and it stayed a office drawing object, fully editable.
<1> you probably had to have done something more than just group and move.
<0> i'm using the word from office2000, whihc is a couple revisions old.
<4> well i cant remember having done some voodoo
<4> i use 2003
<0> I know office 2003 was damn buggy until I installed the last SP on it, and its still kinda raggy (I put that on my work PC and am regretting it)
<1> 2003 works fine for me.
<0> we've had a lot of problems with the powerpoint in '03 rejecting otherwise fine powerpoint files created with '00
<4> okay thanks guys i have to go on, i will just draw it in visio and hope this one doesnt get messed up
<0> i wish visio was a little less annoying... that program has SO much potential, yet it has so many annoying glitches like how it can't keep a straight line to save its ***
<5> Some bugs have been fixed, and OpenNMS can now compile and run on FreeBSD.
<5> h0 h0.
<0> nms ?
<5> the opensores version of HP OV
<0> ah, network management
<3> yum
<5> hahhaa
<5> Previous RTC code init time: 3 hours 47 minutes
<5> Current RTC code init time: 1 minute 19 seconds
<6> Wow.
<7> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BFIJUC/qid=1143319259/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/002-9963632-5520027?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130 <--- now that's worth $200.
<8> hahaha -> http://www.thepaincomics.com/weekly041229a.htm
<9> can i configure IIS (in win2k3) to share a MS-Access Database (mdb)? I know that's possible to ASP creating a DSN in web server machine, but i want to connect an API (Visual Basic App) in a remote machine over internet. Any suggestions?
<0> IIS is a webserver. webservers tend to USE databases, I dunno what you mean 'configure a webserver to share a database'
<0> for multiuser applications, its HIGHLY recommended to NOT use MDB and instead use MSDE or SQL Server.
<5> what if he's only serving up a few users?
<0> I thought an API was a "Application Programming Interface", not a VBasic App.
<10> is there a system restore command from within recovery console?
<0> complianc; shared Access databases are accessed via file sharing.. horrible way to do it. they tend to use full database locks rather than table or row locks.
<11> great, now amazon thinks i want to buy the rifleman 4 dvd box set collection
<5> i am not saying there aren't better ways; i'm merely suggesting the scale of his project may not care.
<0> MSDE is suitable for small scale projects, up to 16 or so simulataneous accesses.
<9> the remote machines (running VB App) need only to execute a tiny select query once a day.
<0> ribamarns; your question is just too vague. you tossed in IIS, Access, and a VB app, without a clear picture of where anything is. is the access database on the IIS server?
<9> yes
<9> mdb file
<9> not MSDE or MS-
<9> SQL
<0> so this remote VB app needs to query the database... I'd probably implement that via a web services thing, so the VB app hits a IIS page that does the query for it, and returns the data. or use .NET
<12> herm
<12> looking at cacti...
<12> mrtg's cfgmaker no likey our new hp switches so in the name of laziness...
<9> and ASP uses a DSN to connect to mdb?
<12> does cacti have something like cfgmaker (or hopefully better) for building a table of what to monitor, how, how to label, etc. . . . ?
<5> yes...and no.
<0> ribamarns; isn't that how the webserver is accessing it now?
<5> cacti can do discovery
<12> but after discovery it often needs tuning i bet .. ?
<5> it's not 'run this script and 15 minutes later graphs appear'
<9> no. Now the clients is accessing via local network (smb).
<9> a share folder
<5> you'll need to spend some time wiht it
<5> to 'get it'
<0> ribamarns; i thought you said the database was on the IIS server ?
<5> it tries to bridge flexability with automation
<9> i asked if it would be a solution.
<9> cause now i need to access it remotely



<0> 'it' ... 'it' is extremely ambiguous here.
<9> access the mdb file remotely
<9> using the VB app
<10> ok, how about this. On my parents comp, when you go to start windows, at windows login.. it says msigna.dll is corrupted or missing or some such
<0> to access the MDB file remotely directly ala SMB, you'd need a VPN, or your network security would be shot to hell.
<10> i tried copying msigna.dll over and I still get it
<0> and, accessing a MDB file over a WAN is very VERY inefficient
<8> try replacing msgina.dll with vagina.dll
<10> i can't use system restore because I get the same error.. I need system restore without the gui
<0> arigo|irc; is this XP ? boot their XP CD, 'install' -> 'repair existing installation'
<9> what do u suggest? The ASP based solution?
<0> ribamarns; I would suggest a client server solution, yes. do the database access on the database server, have hte remote app make some sort of query, like a webservices kinda thing.
<0> .NET would be one approach.
<10> a system restore isn't possible huh? I don't understand why. Everytime I mess with repair it just copies files over and i end up patching all day ;P
<0> you still want to do this over a secure tunnel
<0> arigo|irc; systemrestore only reverts a few things. a corrupt MSGINA file is an indication of something fairly serious wrong, like a virus infection or something.
<13> is DLL_THREAD_ATTACH invoked whenever a thread anywhere in an application is spawned?
<9> thanks peerce
<10> peerce: the file isn't actually corrupt. I copied it from a clean version and I still get the error
<10> windows is mistaken, I do not know what it is , however
<0> arigo|irc; well, MSGINA is the user authentication and loginn layer.
<0> !info MSGINA
<0> !info GINA
<0> hmmm, thought we had something on that.
<12> i did gina. she was hot.
<10> %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe is system restore at command prompt, incase anyone ever asks again. THanks guys
<14> who runs windorks?
<2> fdiv
<2> and skoal
<6> digi
<6> Wait, what?
<6> I don't run Windorks.
<2> shh
<2> no one runs windorks
<6> Ted-Lap: digidog used to, and I used to help.
<2> it hasn't been run or acknoledged in 3 years
<2> +w
<6> Pretty much.
<2> !info windorks
<14> i know that
<14> we should toss dokuwiki on there
<14> that way it can be kept up
<10> actually, that doesn't work /: it's for command prompt within safe mode, not the recovery
<10> crazy you can't do restore from recovery, i guess I have to drop it
<14> arigo|irc, windows restore?
<14> arigo|irc, you can restore an older backup of the registry... which is usually enough to boot to windows restore and revert to a restore point
<15> okay got a serious problem here.... used partition magic to merge two partitions... it was to move all the data to a folder on my c drive which I see is there but there are no contents and the drive is showing as 2.5gb free when it should show over 40gb free... any suggestions?
<6> Sounds like Partition Magic might've ****ed something up.
<6> That does happen.
<15> frig... what a dumb ***... should of backed up before hand...
<15> i do see an undelete option when I just loaded up partition magic... will try that
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<16> Karzai Under Pressure to Free Christian
<16> Email this Story
<16> Mar 25, 3:42 PM (ET)
<16> By AMIR SHAH
<16> (AP) Abdul Rahman, an Afghan man who converted from Islam to Christianity, is interviewed during a...
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<16> KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - Under mounting foreign pressure, President Hamid Karzai searched on Saturday for a way to free an Afghan man on trial for converting from Islam to Christianity without angering Muslim clerics who have called for him to be killed.
<16> ah yes. the religion of peace ;-)
<17> hey barry
<17> went to scumburg today
<16> hey joe
<16> heh.
<16> I went into the city. **** I hate weekend traffic in the city
<12> ya thats scary
<18> what are some essentials for the PC technician? i think this is definitely one of them: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812156101
<12> i so dont want to be xenophobic/biased/etc towards islam but wow
<12> they dont seem to give a **** when women and children are killed by lunatic bombers
<16> religion of peace unless you have a different opinion...about anything
<12> but they riot in the streets and hurt/kill people when you draw a cartoon of mohammed


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