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<Aurelius> this coming fromt he guy missing an e
<peerce> I find 802.11 ping times are often in the 2mS range, while 100baseT ethernet are more like .2mS
<Aurelius> ;(
<sAMOa> this is my daughters nano i got her for christmas
<sAMOa> she thought she broke it
<sAMOa> i reloaded the drivers
<peerce> Rascorp: my kid plays on Kilrogg
<sAMOa> itz all cool npw
<sAMOa> i'ma keep now
<Aurelius> peerce: that makes no difference really when you talk about a public network rtt of 50+ms
<sAMOa> give her my shuffle
<sAMOa> hehehehehehe
<complianc> 50ms!
<Aurelius> 50-52ms is no real humanly discernible difference
<Rascorp> peerce: is that an english server or?
<complianc> you are using a game server across half the country!
<peerce> he's probably farming soul shards now in prep for tonites Molten Core raid.
<sAMOa> my gf is calling me an indian giver.
<sAMOa> wtf is that?
<complianc> CHI to NYC is only ~24ms
<peerce> Rascorp; his raiding guild is about 50% US, 50% aussie, I think.
<peerce> its a US server
<Aurelius> sAMOa: tell her yer samoan
<Aurelius> not indian
<sAMOa> k
<XTR> ahaha.
<Rascorp> ok tnx :)
<Aurelius> complianc: chi to nyc is nothing
<XTR> Stupid samoans.
<complianc> sfo to nyc is ~70ms
<sAMOa> :(
<Aurelius> yes
<sAMOa> IF YOU LOVE SOMEBOLLY
<Aurelius> only from a good link
<sAMOa> FLEE FLEE SET THEM FLEE
<complianc> 73ms
<complianc> currently for me, from nyc-nyc-sfo
<Aurelius> 9 www20.thny.bbc.co.uk (212.58.240.120) 89.513 ms 89.545 ms 91.506 ms
<complianc> thny!
<Aurelius> yup
<complianc> 25bway
<skoal> Coincidentally, nyc-nyc-sfo is my name in Swahili
<peerce> california to that UK link is 80mS
<Aurelius> that's from home
<Aurelius> peerce: that's in ny
<Aurelius> telehouse
<peerce> --- 212.58.240.120 ping statistics ---
<peerce> 15 packets transmitted, 15 received, 0% packet loss, time 14017ms
<peerce> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 79.000/79.893/80.752/0.598 ms, pipe 2
<peerce> oh, its .uk but not in uk, gotcha
<complianc> and keep in mind, the path you think your packets take
<complianc> might not be the real path.
<complianc> see, MPLS
<Aurelius> the beeb has facilities all over
<Aurelius> yes, i know complianc
<peerce> heh, yah, ge0-1.rt0.paix.bbc.co.uk (198.32.176.151) 2.858 ms 2.947 ms 2.526 ms
<Aurelius> 13 www3.thny.bbc.co.uk (212.58.240.33) 74.267 ms 74.329 ms 73.987 ms
<Aurelius> that's from a 100mbit machine
<Aurelius> 20ms difference
<complianc> i see 10ms on my cable first hope
<complianc> hop
<Aurelius> likewise
<complianc> i have a couple of cable connections in MIAMA
<complianc> where it's closer to 25ms
<complianc> cumcast
<Aurelius> so, the 1-2ms added by wireless is nothing
<Aurelius> when you get about 10-20 just by having cable/dsl
<peerce> i've got too much traffic on my home 768k circuit to accurately ping time
<complianc> hahaha
<complianc> PING 68.71.216.1 (68.71.216.1): 56 data bytes
<complianc> 64 bytes from 68.71.216.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=254 time=13.322 ms
<complianc> 64 bytes from 68.71.216.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=13.781 ms (DUP!)
<complianc> DUP!
<Aurelius> i don't have any traffic really
<Aurelius> DUP!
<peerce> this is from home to a above.net/sj2 router.
<peerce> --- 207.111.219.13 ping statistics ---
<peerce> 14 packets transmitted, 14 packets received, 0% packet loss
<peerce> round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 16.723/50.854/128.409/37.936 ms
<peerce> 16 to 128 :D
<Sith_Lord> smurf em!
<peerce> spread
<Aurelius> round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 103.060/133.396/306.329/62.385 ms
<complianc> that's because icmp is handled by the processor.
<Aurelius> wtf
<complianc> and will depend up on how busy the router actually is.
<Aurelius> hrm
<Aurelius> 12 fe-0-0.cnr1103-sjc1.got.net (207.111.219.62) 1.709 ms * 1.732 ms
<peerce> no, its cuz there's web servers, email servers, and all kinda other crap on my home 768k circuit
<FKnight`> all I know is games work great on my wireless
<Aurelius> peerce
<Aurelius> i'm more inclined to believe that it's cuz something on your path is congested
<peerce> try this one, 209.237.244.129
<peerce> yeah, my 768k circuit is whats congested :D
<peerce> --- 209.237.244.129 ping statistics ---
<peerce> 32 packets transmitted, 32 packets received, 0% packet loss
<peerce> round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 14.583/48.255/245.324/63.116 ms
<complianc> mtr.
<Aurelius> haha
<complianc> or lft
<Aurelius> from my place here in walnut creek to sj2
<complianc> tcp ping
<Aurelius> i go through seatac
<Aurelius> :(
<peerce> my ISP coloc'd the redback for SDSL customers at above.net
<peerce> so we get a variety of routing options, the ISP's peers and backbones and above.net's backbone
<Aurelius> i blame twtelecom
<Aurelius> :(
<complianc> hehehe ae-2-56
<complianc> wonder what ae stands for!
<skoal> This ****ing thing still isn't working.
<Aurelius> ?
<skoal> It's not graphing ****.
<complianc> hexEYEdecimal.
<skoal> The ****ing cron log shows the poller running
<skoal> but the log doesn't show any entries
<Aurelius> where's ae-2-56?
<skoal> unless I run poller manually
<complianc> nyc level3. different path.
<complianc> i will ***ume that is 10Gig
<Aurelius> what kinda soup shall i make
<complianc> skoal, in the cacti config
<complianc> you can enable debugging
<complianc> verbose
<complianc> enable that and let it roll a few cycles and examine log file
<skoal> dig.
<Aurelius> ;; Query time: 17 msec
<complianc> "Poller specific logging"
<complianc> DEBUG - Statistics, Errors, Results, I/O and Program Flow
<dust-> hello. in word, i have a grouped vector figure that i cant ungroup - the option is grayed out - anyone knows why this may be? i am working on a thesis - yes i know i should not write it in word anyways
<Aurelius> you shouldn't write it in word?
<dust-> it is full of bugs
<dust-> (see above)
<dust-> maybe its not a bug but a feature ;-)
<complianc> and when you get cacti working skoal you can play with the threshold/alerting
<peerce> wait, Word itself doesnt' do vector graphics. what sort of inserted object is this graphics thing?
<pale_blue> yes it does.
<dust-> it is a native word graphic
<peerce> autoshapes?
<dust-> well circles and arrows
<dust-> i think it happened when i cut and pasted the graphic
<XTR> APOLOGIZE.
<pale_blue> it does polygons, circles, and lines. it's not complex but saying word doesn't do vector graphics is flat out wrong.
<Aurelius> heh
<peerce> so, insert->autoshapes ? I've inserted two autoshapes, and selected both, and I see no 'group'.
<peerce> ok, and I cut, then pasted those, and I can still select one of the shapes and move it independently
<peerce> oh, ther'es group, on the draw toolbar, draw button
<peerce> and, there's ungroup. huh.
<peerce> works.
<peerce> I grouped, cut, pasted, and ungrouped, that worked too
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