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<complianc> THEY TOLD ME NOT TO DO IT.
<peerce> server ntp2.mainecoon.com
<peerce> server time.berkeley.netdot.net
<FKnight`> so, I'm stupid if I folow the documentation in the configuration file ?
<complianc> peerce has it right.
<peerce> but those are all local to me in net-space
<Aurelius> yes
<peerce> !info ntpd
<complianc> you are stupid if you follow the documentation without necessarily understanding WHY
<peerce> !info ntp
<XTR> omg. Stupid. :(
<Aurelius> omg
<pale_blue> the stupi daemon.
<XTR> The stupid pb.
<FKnight`> I have this in my /etc/ntp.conf: server north-america.pool.ntp.org prefer <-- the prefer keyword tells it to use that one, according to the same documentation that specifically states not to remove "server 127.127.1.0 "
<FKnight`> So again, are you calling me stupid for not disregarding the documentation?
<XTR> Who you calling stupid?
<FKnight`> Cause if you're telling me the documentation is WRONG, say it.
<complianc> yes. i don't have that in my ntpd file.
<complianc> and my ntpd works.
<complianc> across several servers
<complianc> amazing that!
<FKnight`> IS the documentation wrong or am I stupid
<FKnight`> answer.
<XTR> Wow.
<complianc> take your pick. either way, your ntpd is NOT working.
<FKnight`> that wasn't my question.
<FKnight`> Am I a dummy for giving up on my ntpd configuration and just cronning ntpdate?
<complianc> i could careless about your question. focus on the problem. not whether or not you are stupid or the documentation is wrong.
<complianc> if ntpdate croned works for your time needs.
<complianc> great.
<FKnight`> I am focusing on you calling me a dummy for using ntpdate
<Aurelius> server time.nist.gov minpoll 7 maxpoll 12
<Aurelius> that's all i have :(
<skoal> "time needs" :)
<FKnight`> And I am focusing on 12 years of this channel calling me a ****ing idiot for my **** not working
<FKnight`> when all I do is follow instructions
<complianc> fknight
<skoal> I never called you that fk.
<complianc> time to sometimes think outside the box
<complianc> if you remove that line
<complianc> will your server blow up?
<complianc> NO
<FKnight`> "ntpdate is for dummies"
<FKnight`> Apologize.
<complianc> why, you'll ban me?
<FKnight`> yes.,
<complianc> i'll just sign onto the bots and unban it.
<Sith_Lord> lol
<XTR> You go sloan.
<complianc> and then i might /kill you.
<complianc> just for spit.
<complianc> spite, even.
<skoal> easy now
<Aurelius> spit?
<Aurelius> eww
<skoal> no need for hostility
<complianc> i'm not the one all opered up!
<XTR> This is all skoal's fault.
<skoal> :(
<skoal> im sorry!
<XTR> Cause skoal is dump and broke his ****in redhate 5 box.
<skoal> I didn't wanna start WW000100100101
<XTR> WDF MAN.
<XTR> Apologize skoal.
<FKnight`> I want him to apologize for calling me a dummy. I am ****ing sick and tired of **** being broken out of the ****ing box, and me following documentation and people calling me an idiot, and now this ****er is calling me a "dummy" for using ntpdate, when the only reason ntpd didn't work was because the DOCUMENTATION LIED
<skoal> i already did
<XTR> k.
<Aurelius> no he didn't
<Aurelius> liar
<XTR> linux is evil and feeds pplz egos.
<peerce> !infomod NTP NTP server documentation: http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/index.html ... list of public Network Time Protocol servers. read carefully. http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Servers/WebHome
<sAMOa> damn this thing be c00
<Aurelius> nei
<fdiv_bug> sAMOa: Whatcha gonna do with that there Shuffle?
<peerce> yah, the nano is a slick bit.
<skoal> Is that Dank's kid??
<fdiv_bug> You could use it as the world's least economical memory stick.
<skoal> He's on IRC already?
<peerce> hope you didn't get the black one, they scratch really easily
<sAMOa> gonna see if it can be used to cause clients machines not to boot
<sAMOa> and then use it to make extra bucks
<sAMOa> :P
<dankid> if i was directly connected to a router instead of wireless, would i get a better ping rate
<dankid> less lag
<dankid> ?
<Aurelius> slightly yes
<peerce> yes, wireless is slower and less reliable than wired ethernet
<FKnight`> except when it's not
<Aurelius> but you wouldn't notice it for the most part if you have a long path over the actual intarweb
<dankid> tight
<peerce> but, 'ping rate'... you talking about ping times in a game ?
<sAMOa> how do i turn the volume on this thing
<sAMOa> ?
<peerce> game ping times are a factor of MANY things, internet propagation latency is only one.
<peerce> sAMOa; the dial, just twirl it
<Aurelius> must have more vroom
<dankid> yeah game pings mainly. im trying to have lower ping rates
<dankid> when im on the servers
<Aurelius> choose closer servers!
<peerce> thats a factor of the game server more than anything.
<dankid> eh yeah
<dankid> true
<FKnight`> As far as the Internet is concerned, wireless is no different than wired unless your wireless signal is ****ty enough to make you lose 50Mbps of bandwidth.
<Aurelius> if you choose something in chicago
<FKnight`> which is doubtful
<complianc> clear if you are expiercing game lag issues
<Aurelius> it'd be quite a bit faster than something west coast
<complianc> you need to invest in one of these when the come out
<dankid> it is real ****ty
<complianc> http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/03/24/game_lag_reduction/
<peerce> FKnight`; um, wireless often has a significantly higher lost packet rate than wired.
<dankid> i only get like 50 instead of 100 wireless
<FKnight`> except in my house apparently.
<Aurelius> peerce: depends on the SNR
<dankid> the signal is poop
<Aurelius> if the signal is poop
<XTR> UH.
<Aurelius> then yeah, you'd get a lot of lost packets
<dankid> true true
<Aurelius> omg.
<sAMOa> oooo ahhhhhh
<XTR> WDF.
<sAMOa> whoa thatz slick
<sAMOa> FREE FREE SET THEM FREE
<Rascorp> do some1 herre play wow?
<Rascorp> *here
<Aurelius> if they were playing wow, they'd probably not be here :)
<XTR> samotr0n Sting?
<sAMOa> IF YOU LOVE SOMEBOLLY
<XTR> Yes.
<sAMOa> SET THEM FLEE
<sAMOa> yesh
<Aurelius> da more you ruv someone
<XTR> I love Marb.
<FKnight`> maybe I just don't turn on dozens of interference causing machinery in my living room where my wireless signal is.
<sAMOa> FLEE FLEE SET THEM FLEE
<Rascorp> they who r playing wow...which server(s) do u play on?
<complianc> are you mixing G and B clients?
<complianc> a B client will bring a G client down to B level
<complianc> in some cances.
<complianc> safljsdf
<complianc> cases.
<Aurelius> this coming fromt he guy missing an e
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