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<0> you think any scheme won't get cracked in 2 seconds anyway?
<0> DRM = download, replicate, *********e
<1> i'd only run windows for the occasional **** that doesn't work on mac os...
<1> if macs still ran os9 i might buy a windows notebook... except the mac hardware is so much nicer
<1> or maybe a game
<2> i just don't like being told what i can and can't do..
<2> i could careless about warez
<2> osx for everything but games
<2> once osx becomes the platform of choice and games start migrating to it.. drop that windows crap
<3> as if that will ever happen.
<1> OSX is the platform of choice for me
<4> Most of the major games already come out for Mac OS X, six or so months after they do for Windows.
<1> its' way ahead of where vista will be as far as im concerned/informed
<4> MUTANTE GIGANTE!
<1> fdiv_bug, now that having a fast mac is starting to become possible/affordable...
<4> ian: The iMac Core Duo is certainly a much better gaming machine than the iMac G5 ever was.
<4> Though the Power Mac G5 has always ****in' smoked.
<5> COCK
<5> BALLS
<6> please be clear on what is desirable about Apple.
<7> for 6 grand it better smoke my cock
<6> it's OS X.
<1> I've never really used the better G5s
<6> not Macintosh.
<4> COCK! (YEAH!) BALLS! (YEAH!) BIRD! (YEAH!)
<2> will mac clones be more likely once they become intel-based?
<6> clearly, OS X can run on intel only PCs.
<1> but i did use a 2ghz intel imac
<5> YEAH! (YEAH)
<6> if apple wanted it too.
<1> stuff opening in less than a bounce is rad
<7> amon, i loaded osx beta on my opteron
<5> COCK-N-BALLS DON'T EVERYBODY HAVE YOU HEARD
<7> worked great
<4> [TPasMan]: No.
<1> sys prefs was like instant
<2> why not?
<4> Jobs understands Apple's place as a hardware manufacturer.
<6> this is correct.
<6> it's taken me some time to get that into my thicke skull.
<4> They're a hardware company. Their software exists to make their hardware more appealing.
<1> a lot of mac fans don't want cheaply made macs anyway - even the poor ones
<1> the hardware is part of the experience, for whatever thats worth
<4> That's why their margins are ****ing nuts high compared to e.g. Dell.
<3> people aren't going to be happy until their computers open occasionally used dialog windows so fast that they go back in time 10 seconds.
<1> it's not that macs are expensive, really, its that pcs are cheap as dirt
<7> the fact that the hardware all works seemlessly is that they control all of it :P
<4> Gimp-Work: Pretty much.
<1> that said, i want to build a new pc...
<2> can osx be put on an intel clone?
<7> beta could
<2> i ***ume no.. no EFI
<7> final prolly will eventually
<1> but damn, i could use that $700 towards a macbook
<7> the beta supported non-efi operation
<7> out, bll
<7> bbl
<2> beta of what? osx?
<2> osx is already out
<3> i guess i coulda seen that coming.
<2> did i understand correctly.. osx can be installed on an wintel-based PC?
<6> if this represents apple
<6> http://dogcow.atspace.com/thumbs.html
<6> i want no part of it
<6> no tpasman, osx intel relies on EFI
<6> there are no EFI PCs except itanium
<6> or something to that effect.
<6> apple is smart like that.
<2> ok
<2> so windows on intel-mac and osx on pc isn't possible.. because one is bios and one is efi
<6> that seems to be the basis of the issue. apple i'm quite sure has taken steps to ensure osx is not easily if ever made to work on your garden variety dell
<6> is was pointed out earlier, they are, a hardware company.
<2> yea
<6> something like buying a $99 leather cheap at el-cheapo furniture store vs. hitting up herman miller for the aeron.
<2> but in my dream world desktop/servers would be windows free
<6> you can achieve that today easily.
<6> it just might not scale.
<1> amonfils, apple claimed they did not do anything to prevent windows being run on the macs...
<1> but i doubt they really cared to facilitate it even if that's true
<2> and be completely ms-office compatible? doubt it
<1> OSX isn't ms-office compatible?
<6> tpasman, application compatibility is merely one facet of running an enterprise network full of workstations.
<6> how about OS updates.
<6> policies.
<6> security.
<2> osx run ms-office?
<6> yes.
<1> [TPasMan] of course man
<6> keep up with the times.
<1> Office X is better than windows office
<6> msft has committed to five years of keeping it in sync.
<6> uhm, don't get crazy. better is subjective.
<6> for ****'s sake. people need to learn to draw appropriate comparisons.
<1> well, in some instances, it does have more features on the mac (3d charting)
<1> better IS subjective, that's why I said, it is better.
<1> I am speaking after all
<6> in your 10 desktop office i'm sure management the infrastructure is a breeze.
<6> in your 10000 desktop campus, os x presents far more daunting challenges than worrying about 3d graphs.
<0> as someone who works in the publishing business, office X is a joke.
<0> great for a real estate office with 4 employees, maybe.
<1> all i use office for is creating documents
<6> there's that subjective thing - when i think about the validity of OSs, i tend to think in terms of thousands of desktops
<1> I guess you guys are talking about setting up networks and **** like that
<1> well I don't care about offices full of desktops... sure I'll give the plebes whatever is easiest ;)
<0> i'm mostly talking about getting work accomplished without endless incompatibility issues
<8> ive had it with sbc
<0> and for newspapers to get printed on time
<2> well as far as i can tell my ATI all-in-wonder radeon 9800 software wouldn't on osx
<2> i would loose my tv tuner and pvr abilities
<6> it's a windows world.
<2> yup
<2> msft has total control
<2> i hate it
<2> a corporate bully
<6> last i checked, people have the freedom to deploy whatever solution they prefer.
<6> msft doesn't force anything upon you. they are a business, attempting to make money.
<0> yeah, tpasman, use linux
<0> you have choice
<0> nobody put a gun to your head
<2> not if they want to be compatible with the rest of the corporate world..
<0> if ms ****s so bad, why do you insist to keep using it?
<0> blame the companies that continue to use it, then.
<0> it's not walmart's fault people are too stupid to realize shopping there hurts in the long run
<0> that's not wal-mart's fault
<0> that's the ignorant consumer.
<6> when you have that much penetration into a market, and your customers do not reject the format, you can develop any format or "standard" you want.
<0> walmart might hire illegal aliens and make their employees work through lunchbreaks and for unpaid hours before and after their shifts,
<2> there is no totally carefree crossplatform environment like windows
<0> but that has nothing to do with consumers choosing to go there
<0> so is windows is a 'carefree' crossplatform environment, what's your problem, then?
<0> sounds nice to me
<0> if you're so concerned about corporate evil, you need to chuck your car, sneakers, clothing, TV and cancel your electricty service, too.
<6> *shrug, it's a choice. it's certainly not without its list of faults which is longer than my cock. but at the end of the day, i, and the people who work around me, get things done on the windows platform.
<0> otherwise you're just being a hypocrite
<0> amonfils - imho the end result is more important than the process.
<6> correct. i don't care how you get it done, as long as it's done, done right, and done when i need it done.
<6> done/done
<2> msft is a monopoly.. plain and simple.. no freedom of choice
<2> i can put whatever gasoline i want in my car..
<2> and drive it on any street it want
<2> in a msft world..
<2> only they would sell gas
<2> and your car would only run on their roads
<0> ok you're just regurgitating uninformed bull****
<0> do we need to get into the oil industry now?
<0> you can pump any gas you like? ahahaha
<0> tell the saudis that
<0> and MS isn't a monopoly. just ask the department of justice.
<0> there are other operating systems
<0> again
<6> (depsite their efforts to prove otherwise)
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