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<0> z0r: that statement is true, then the PDC role os resumed once the DC resumes operation
<1> rworks, yes..
<0> hova: go to asus.com
<1> rworks: I need redundancy in case the main domain controller fail
<2> Well of course.
<0> it is an asus mobo?
<2> That's not new to 2003.
<3> yeah i went there
<4> man, im only running a network of about 40 workstations and i have 4 DCs.. redundancy is a nice thing.
<3> fount NOTHING
<0> zog: ditto
<0> :P
<2> z0g^sn: 40 workstations in one site?
<2> And 4 DCs?
<2> Why?
<4> yeah its all one site
<4> why the hell man. why not.
<4> its not like i have a problem with replication traffic on such a small site
<2> Cause you're adding needless complexity.
<1> rworks: you cant have multiple domain controllers in 2000, right or im wrong?
<0> wrong
<2> And needless complexity is 1. Expensive, and 2. More likely to suffer failure. :)
<2> MUMU: You're wrong.
<2> You could have Multiple domain controllers in NT 4.
<1> ok
<2> One primary and any number of back DCs.
<2> With 2000, the concept of primary and backup DCs went away, and all DCs became read-write.
<1> rworks: I meant multiple primary domain controller
<4> i suppose 3 DCs would be fine for the site. two being DNS servers as well as DCs and GCs, and the other being just an extra, maybe a GC too
<2> With 2000+, there's no such thing as a PDC or a BDC.
<4> rworks: whats what ive been trying to tell the guy
<2> There is the PDC Emulator FSMO role, but for non-NT clients, it's mostly meaningless.
<2> Other than little things like the fact the PDC Emulator acts as the master time sync for the domain.
<1> rworks: do you have any links as how to make the domain controller to fallover if the main one fail?
<2> MUMU: You don't have to do anything.
<4> we have one of our oldest most reliable Netserver taking care of the pdc fsmo.
<2> There is no such thing as a main one.
<2> I don't know what part of this you aren't understanding.
<2> All DCs are equal in 2000+
<4> its automatic dude
<1> rworks: ok.. lets me explain
<5> .
<2> No, don't explain. Read.
<5> there is no idea of a pdc and bdc or whatever in win2000 and win2003.
<4> you can have a number of domain controllers in a 2000+ environment, shut down any one of them, and clients still login and authenticate and things still ****ing work
<1> rworks: I have only 1 DC right now but want to add redundancy
<5> unless you're thinking FSMO roles.
<5> but even then! still only one!
<2> MUMU: Then DCPromo another server.
<2> Done.
<5> MUMU: then add a server to the domain.
<5> then dcpromo it
<5> THATS IT! +&)l.
<2> Now you have two domain controllers.
<1> ohh
<1> rworks: it will copy all the settings to this new server?
<2> Yes, everything in AD will replicate over there automagically.
<4> as long as you still have an active DC, then dcpromoing another member server will replicate all necessary information required for it to operate as a dc.
<2> While you're at it, install DNS on the second server before you promote it.
<4> indeed. smart idea.
<2> You really need a second DNS server.
<4> yes. NEED.
<6> oh yeah, is there any upgrade license for windows xp pro in volume licenseing or must you just buy a full version license?
<4> AD is so dependent on DNS, if you dont have a DNS server, youre ****ed
<2> If you have two domain contollers, but only one of them is hosting DNS, and that one fails, you're still ****ed.
<1> rworks: in other word after I run dcpromo, I can shutdown the first domain controller and it will still works?
<2> MUMU: If you did it right, yes.
<2> And you have a second DNS server.
<2> Cause AD doesn't work without DNS.
<1> ok
<1> is it possible to copy the dns from the first DC over as well?
<2> Just install the DNS server on the second server before you run DCPromo.
<7> What the **** is with the paper MCSEs?
<7> !info abo
<1> rworks: ok.
<2> Then when you promote it, it'll set up the domain in DNS too.
<2> MUMU: Are you an MCSE?
<1> rworks: nope :)
<7> LIAR.
<4> just creating a second dns server thats AD integrated doesnt do enough, that doesnt set up your forwarding.
<4> at least in 2000, i dunno about 2k3
<1> rworks: it will setup the domain in DNS as the first DC?
<2> z0g^sn: If it's AD integrated, you don't need to do forwarding.
<2> You mean like master/slave?
<2> What do you mean forwarding?
<4> i mean forwarding as in resolving addresses outside your private network
<7> Like a forwarder.
<2> Oh, I don't use Forwarders.
<2> I use root hints.
<2> Forwarders is too dependent on someone else's DNS server.
<7> Good point.
<4> indeed.... fortunately havent had a problem with that at the moment. but good point.
<7> I need to read up on root hints.
<8> if you're a large site, root hints are apporpriate, for a small network, forwarders to your ISP's caching servers are more appropriate
<8> its all about the load you put on the backbone name servers
<1> rworks: i've setup 2 pcs to test this DC migration
<1> rworks: already setup the first dc
<1> rworks: i'm doing the 2nd DC
<1> rworks: which option do I select? domain controller for new domain or additional domain controller?
<4> perhaps you outta get a few big thick books
<1> yeah
<8> !info TECHNET
<2> MUMU: Is English your first language?
<2> Please say no.
<1> nope
<4> or technet. yeah. microsoft has a wealth of information available online for free.
<0> experts-exchange.com is great too
<1> i'm from venezuela
<4> i personally like paper, though. call me old fashioned.
<7> Woah, if you don't know the answer to this > domain controller for new domain or additional domain controller? You might not wanna be touching stuff.
<1> rworks: you do not understand my question?
<2> MUMU: I understand what you are asking
<2> I just don't understand how you can read that dialog box and not know which choice is appropriate.
<1> rworks: well I chose additional domain but it doesnt work :(
<7> You mean additional DC.
<4> does the account you are using have delegation rights?
<1> yes
<1> zog: i'm using administrator acct
<1> zog: I ***ume it does, no?
<4> domain admin account should, unless someones ****ed with the default gpos
<1> well nobody did
<1> i'm the only one that have access
<4> has. not have.
<7> Woah, I was gonna correct that one.
<7> LAY OFF Z0RG.
<7> ****.
<1> ok
<7> z0rg I love you. PLease don't be mad.
<7> :(
<4> i love you too lover.
<7> Woah, that was my line too.
<7> ****.
<4> slacker
<7> The ice in my Vodka melted WAY too fast.
<8> sounds like someone needs to go to MCSE school.
<7> I'm pretty freaked out.
<7> Mud Are you dissing me again?
<0> hey peerce
<4> mcse school? read books at the least :D
<0> have you heard of schooling in india?
<7> ahaha.
<7> WOAH.
<5> mcse school wtf
<7> Didn't someone ask that yesterday?
<0> was me
<7> Training in India ****?
<0> yea
<4> i hate school. i rather read big thick books.
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