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<FKnight`> Linux ain't as bad as I'm making it out to be
<FKnight`> I use it :D
<Unify> it would have probably blown right on linux
<Unify> i almost got to the point where i was like ****it, where's a redhate cd
<FKnight`> at least I'm finally getting rid of ****ing sendmail on all the networks I run
<FKnight`> sendmail is so ****ing useless
<FKnight`> postfix kicks ***
<Unify> yes
<Unify> psotfix is daddy's mail server.
<Unify> i'm sure with enough experience and twiddling, sendmail makes sense.
<Unify> but postfix seems more "plain english" too me.
<FKnight`> here's my question though
<FKnight`> I can't remove sendmail from this box
<FKnight`> smtpdaemon is needed by (installed) mdadm-1.6.0-2.i386
<FKnight`> why does the raidtools REQUIRE sendmail ?
<FKnight`> *why do
<DrunkCow> uh
<DrunkCow> so it can email you]
<DrunkCow> when your **** melts
<Unify> why wouldn't it just call 'sendmail' ?
<DrunkCow> which sendmail?
<FKnight`> that's a pretty lame reason. I have tons of Windows servers at work with RAID and they don't require a local SMTP daemon, of a specific brand, be installed in order to notify me of problems
<Cody`> In the morning, I went for a run
<Cody`> And when I got got home she was lying in the sun
<Cody`> Naked like a statue, the goddess of fun
<Cody`> And she removed my shorts, my shoes, and my gun
<Unify> postfix installs a 'fake' sendmail wrapper
<DrunkCow> fk, to run it, or to compile it?
<Unify> so you can do 'sendmail' on the command line if necessary
<DrunkCow> FKnight`, that is because windows has ONE place
<DrunkCow> where the default mail system is defined
<FKnight`> No
<DrunkCow> yes
<InFeDeL> Can someone tell me the reg hack to disable ballon tips plz
<DrunkCow> windows always knows what the default email client is
<FKnight`> this is because vendors of RAID utilities for Windows have a field labeled "Type your SMTP server"
<FKnight`> my windows file servers don't have mail clients installed
<DrunkCow> i'm sure there is a valid reason
<azure> http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.shemale-club.com/FHG/naomi/Naomi012.jpg whatthe?
<DrunkCow> sure it does
<Unify> shemail!
<DrunkCow> OE biatch
<DrunkCow> :P
<FKnight`> DrunkCow: My windows file servers do not have OE installed
<DrunkCow> hah, you remove it?
<FKnight`> yes.
<DrunkCow> damn
<DrunkCow> that seems...excessive
<FKnight`> Whatever
<DrunkCow> no it's not bad
<DrunkCow> i'm just surprised at your attention to detail
<FKnight`> all I'm saying is that there is no valid reason for raid utilities to require the presence of a specific MTA be installed.
<DrunkCow> FKnight`, the raid requires it to be installed before they will run?
<DrunkCow> or before they compile
<azure> http://postyourgirls.com/febre/25/01/07.jpg <- nice mom :(
<FKnight`> since every other RAID management platform in the WORLD acts as it's own mail client and sends via SMTP
<iLLN3SS> anyone got a min? i just need someone to gimme the ip of a www for me
<iLLN3SS> someone gimme ip for prometheus.bsdlogic.com
<DrunkCow> 127.0.0.1
<FKnight`> DrunkCow: I'm saying I cannot rpm -e sendmail without rpm -e'ing mdadm (raidtools)
<SD70MAC> I'd **** her while the kid watches.
<iLLN3SS> she had a csection
<DrunkCow> FKnight`, yeah that is stupid
<DrunkCow> compilation i could maybe see
<iLLN3SS> someone gimme the ip of that www!
<iLLN3SS> i cant get it my isp is messing up dns servers
<z4M04> MY MY HAY HAY. ROCKNROLL WILL NEVER DIE.
<FKnight`> that would be like Backup exec requiring me to install Exchange on the backup server so it can email me backup reports
<iLLN3SS> omg
<iLLN3SS> it takes 2 seconds
<FKnight`> it's not like there isn't .. I dunno..;.
<FKnight`> SMTP
<iLLN3SS> not even
<FKnight`> !google web based dns lookup
<WinInfo> http://www.zoneedit.com/lookup.html
<FKnight`> DrunkCow: if they wanna require me to have the sendmail LIBS installed in order to COMPILE the raidtools because it statically links functions to send email, THAT'S FINE
<FKnight`> but I don't like having to do what basically AMOUNTS to having EXCHANGE installed on a file server just so my QLOGIC adapter can email me **** when my RAID is ****ed
<iLLNESS> f4gs
<FKnight`> iLLNESS: I JUST ****ING GAVE YOU A URL to do dns lookups
<SD70MAC> And you can do !dns on irc servers.
<iLLNESS> and i just used it
<iLLNESS> yeah
<pale_blue> ***uming that he can resolve the hostname in the URL.
<iLLNESS> but i cant locally
<SD70MAC> Stupid bitch.
<FKnight`> ***uming there's a bot in the irc channel you're in that responds to !dns
<iLLNESS> cause my isp is messing up the dns
<FKnight`> !dns is not part of the IRC protocol :D
<-> Non-existent host/domain)
<SD70MAC> I didn't know that.
<z4M04> wdf?
<iLLNESS> [13:09] * Dns resolved prometheus.bsdlogic.com to 24.153.22.114
<iLLNESS> thats wrong :)
<SD70MAC> Oh. It is /dns that you use.
<z4M04> yesh
<iLLNESS> [13:09] * Dns resolved www.xbox-scene.com to 24.153.22.114
<z4M04> absolutely illadvised 'n ****
<FKnight`> -> /dns is a client side extension
<SD70MAC> It is?
<FKnight`> the IRC client has to support it
<FKnight`> most don't
<FKnight`> it's usually implemented via script
<SD70MAC> [13:09] * Dns resolved prometheus.bsdlogic.com to 64.18.135.130
<FKnight`> that's because your IRC client has the /dns command
<FKnight`> most don't
<SD70MAC> We look for things.
<SD70MAC> Things that make us go.
<z4M04> FK speaks with prudent tongue
<iLLNESS> also wrong
<iLLNESS> [13:10] * Dns resolved www.rom10x.com to 24.153.22.114
<iLLNESS> also wrong :)
<iLLNESS> see :) mines wrong
<iLLNESS> wanna see something weird now
<iLLNESS> [
<iLLNESS> whoops
<vaser2> hey..what program can I use to convert dvd video into a mp3 file
<iLLNESS> [13:10] * Dns resolved www.xbox-scene.com to 24.153.22.114
<iLLNESS> [13:10] * Dns resolved xbox-scene.com to 69.90.33.28
<iLLNESS> rogers is blocking my www's
<Joe-7> um
<pale_blue> or your ****'s totally owned.
<FKnight`> that has nothing to do with your ISP :D
<FKnight`> it means the A record for xbox-scene.com is different from www.xbox-scene.com
<iLLNESS> how doesnt it
<pale_blue> [13:11] * Dns resolved 24.153.22.114 to spweb.wlfdle.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com
<iLLNESS> fknight
<BBS> host www.xbox-scene.com
<BBS> www.xbox-scene.com is an alias for xbox-scene.com.
<BBS> xbox-scene.com has address 69.90.33.28
<BBS> www.xbox-scene.com is an alias for xbox-scene.com.
<BBS> xbox-scene.com mail is handled by 0 xbox-scene.com.
<iLLNESS> check urself
<BBS> that's why you're getting multiple ip's
<iLLNESS> dns www.xbox-scene.com
<iLLNESS> it should not resolve to a rogers host
<FKnight`> so you're saying that your ISP is rewriting DNS requests for "anydomain.com" ?
<iLLNESS> my isp is messing with something thats for sure
<Dankman> re
<vaser2> hey..what program can I use to convert dvd video into a mp3 filee
<iLLNESS> i cant complain though. not exactly paying
<FKnight`> or maybe the zone file for xbox-scene.com is set up that way ?
<iLLNESS> it never used to be like that
<iLLNESS> it happened after my modem dropped
<FKnight`> hmm
<FKnight`> they both resolve to 69.90.33.28 here :D
<iLLNESS> exactly
<iLLNESS> www.xbox-scene.com -> www.shoprogers.com
<iLLNESS> probably a hint for me ahah


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