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<0> not like it's $$, 5-10 bucks, another 2 years life? <1> HEY EVERYBODY <2> WHAT. <3> gg <3> nextmap <3> timeleft <3> rank <3> ma_ban 999 skoalwork <4> sparr: You were asking that exact same question, with that exact same paste, a week or so ago, weren't you? <4> And I seem to recall having told you that there's no such thing that I've ever seen, and then I wished you luck in finding one. I take it either you're unlucky or I was right. <5> last time i had a question of this magnitude of oddness it took a month to find someone with a 'yes' :) <4> sparr: Well begging for answers annoys some of us who have to keep reading what you say over and over. <4> skoalwork: Back me up, here. <2> just go buy virtualpc or vmware or some ****. <4> pizza_biz: That wouldn't run his games at full speed or with full hardware acceleration, would it? <2> make a virtual image, back it up, abuse it to your hear's content.
<5> the internet is very very big. if the solution is out there maybe only a few thousand people have heard of it. i have to persist until i run across one of them, or until its statistically unlikely that i wouldnt have found them if they exist <2> hm. point. qemu maybe. <5> pizza_biz: imaging and emulation are lacking in so many ways, far more than just using cedega <4> sparr: Why are you so concerned about running a Windows gaming machine anyway? <5> right now ive got the 'lesser of four evils' solution <5> fdiv_bug: a few games dont work in cedega <4> sparr: Right. So run Windows. <4> What's so bad about using Windows for tasks at which Windows excels? <2> BCUZ ITZ NOT KEWL IF U CANT KLUDGE IT <1> Sorry fdiv_bug. <1> I was turned around. <1> But, YEAH. <4> skoalwork: YEAH!! <1> SO KNOCK IT OFF SPARR. <5> fdiv_bug: lack of all the cool stuff that a sandbox provides. most prominently there is perfect uninstallation and lack of interference between apps <4> I've never really had any problems with games ****ing with one another and I've been running the same install of XP for nearly 2.5 years. <5> every so often when i need to find a setting in the registry it is nice when the registry in question ONLY contains entries for the game im playing <4> Why are you going around ****ing with your registry? <4> I can't recall that I've never needed to edit the registry to get a game to work. <5> iirc, doom3 had a graphical glitch that was fixed via a registry change to the nvidia settings <1> This one time, I edited the registry, and this ATM in Idaho started spitting out money into the STREET. <1> That was me! <3> sounds like someone has OCD <2> i don't recall any serious "graphical glitch" in doom3. <4> sparr: And in the event that this does become necessary, shouldn't information clearly state where in the registry the setting would be? <4> Or would id Software say, "Go into your registry and find something that looks like it needs to be changed?" <6> Anyone knows if there is a program who look like centericq? (A consolebased im, (must be comatible with MSNMESSENGER)).. <7> fdiv_bug 2.5 years eh? <7> i've never heard of a single windows install lasting that long <5> 2.5 is seriously impressive <4> ArthrDent: Yep. The only issue I've ever had with it was when I did something stupid and wasn't paying attention and got hit with some spyware horse****. Fortunately I had a restore point from the day before, which worked like a champ. <2> i think my XP install is going on 2 years happy and healthy. <5> whoa <5> windows restore works for you? <4> iTunes and QuickTime weren't happy with my going back in time, but I uninstalled and reinstalled them and they're both just fine now. <4> sparr: Windows restore works for lots of people. <5> i gave up on restore years ago, after dozens of failed attempts. ive never seen it work. never heard from a personal acquaintance of it working <1> WOOKIN PA NUB. <5> one of the first things i do with a fresh install is disable it, to save the hard drive space, in light of it 'never' working <8> restore is a puzzle to me <2> see, restore points should require you to go through a gate that has a sign reading "-> 100 <- you must be at least this intelligent to use this feature". <8> oh that's why, ok :) <7> one day while mucking about the registry i actually found the windows_installation_max_time value <4> How come so many people have so many problems with Windows? <7> it was set by default to 3 months <7> hehe <5> fdiv_bug: you dont want an answer to that :) <2> the answer is easy. <4> It can't be that some of us are exceptionally good at managing Windows systems, since I don't actually do any management. I just letit do its thing and don't go ****ing around where I don't need to. <2> because people by and large are ****ing stupid. <9> anyone know if you can do an in-place upgrade from Windows 2003 Server, Web Edition to one of the 'regular' Windows 2003 Server editions? <9> aka upgrade to it without having to wipe the system and start over <4> sparr: If you have an actual answer to that I'd love to hear it. If you're going to blame the problem on Microsoft then you're just another troll who's wasting perfectly good oxygen. <5> im intelligent enough to write code to fix slightly broken drivers for my odd devices in linux. devices that dont work in winxp, i might add :) <4> Deryl: I don't think you can do that. <5> so i dont think stupidity is the root of my problems with windows <4> sparr: That's great, but you can't manage to not **** up your Windows install after a few months? Sounds like you're an idiot savant to me. <9> i don't have enough backup space to move data to, nor anymore DVDRs to burn stuff off. <9> damn i need more friggin drives <5> sandboxes are great at eliminating spyware too
<7> fdiv_bug: trivia. 1.333739 or 1.33382045 <7> choose wisely <9> 1.333739 :) <5> say i install some program of dubious origin. it installs spyware. <4> ArthrDent: Do you have a point to being here? <7> not usually no <4> Then kindly either contribute or sod off. <5> in native windows, im stuck waiting for my antivirus/antispyware company to come up with rules to track down and uninstall the spyware, hopefully without hurting anything else <4> sparr: That has been known to happen. Don't install those programs. <5> in cedega, i just delete the folder for the program <4> I mean, that's like complaining that if you smoke in a room full of canisters of hydrogen, and one of them has a leak, you could be blown up. <9> sparr: amazing how between norton and microsoft's spyware programs I've not a single infestation proved out by packet monitoring <4> The solution is, of course, to not smoke in that room. <5> some programs refuse to be installed twice, or run twice concurrently, or to be used to perform certain functions more than once (yes, using limited demos longer than allowed is one of my more nefarious goals) <4> Man. <5> fdiv_bug: yes, but if you find some inherent value in smoking, or enjoy it, being able to put each canister in its own room and only smoke with one of them increases your odds a lot <4> The number of people that I come across who -- as near as I can tell -- enjoy setting up insurmountable obstacles in front of themselves when it comes to using their computers to get **** done just boggles the mind. <9> fdiv_bug: you'll have to explain that one. what is so 'insurmountable'? <5> thanks for the analogy, ill include it next time i ask :) <2> how about "absurdly speculative"? or "quixotic"? <4> Deryl: Oh, just these people who come in here and start asking about how to keep Windows from doing this, or whining about how Windows is broken in this way, or that they ****ed around in their registry and now Windows doesn't work right. <9> fdiv_bug: ahh ok, that definition i can agree with. continue. was just wondering :) <4> They'll say they need Windows to fit into this obsessively ridiculous set of rules they've created for how they want to use their computers, rather than just using them. <5> i accepted the loss of many windows-specific applications when i switched to linux. since then ive encountered so many "i wish windows had this" features. now that im considering a windows box for games, id like to find ways to achieve those features in windows <4> I mean, here's sparr. He wants to install a small copy of Windows with every game and, apparently, some applications he installs so that if he has to go ****ing around with one it won't **** up the others. <9> that's why you have vmware <4> Never in my life have I had any desire to set up such a convoluted system to keep running something that runs pretty damned well on its own. <9> and vmware gsx. <9> you need virtualization software to make tha a reality <5> just for fun, install a hundred windows apps. then uninstall them. then compare your hard drive to an image from before the installations. see all that 'junk'? i dont want it. <4> sparr: You should consider going on medication to help with your OCD. <9> even if you do it with linux or freebsd as the host OS. you want to isolate functionality to specific realms, you need virtualiation <4> So long as the system continues to function I don't particularly care what kruft is left lying around. <5> Deryl: ok. i can live with that. <4> The problem with Win9x was that it didn't do the former when the latter had built up. <9> that's WHY virtualization is being the market trend (consider Intel's CPU changes to support exactly that) <10> Anyone know if it is extremely important to screw in a screw in every possible motherboard screw mount? <4> But I've never had that issue with Win2K Pro or WinXP Pro. <5> Deryl: the problem at hand is that windows apparently cant do it <9> sparr: of course not, that's not it's function <10> i have the spacers in all the right spot, but about three of the things are impossible to screw into <9> that's what Virtual Server or vmware is for <4> sparr: Windows doesn't have a virtualization layer for games. So sorry. <5> stainer72: not at all. 3 is plenty if you dont plan to shake your computer while its running <10> not 3 <10> just three not in <0> strainer, a screw for every hole your mb has <5> fdiv_bug: i shouldnt have said games. i mean it for all programs. <10> i have six in <4> sparr: That's what VMware is for. <5> stainer72: 3 in is plenty <9> that's a completely seperate function from say 'run as' and 'execute in seperate memory space' <0> they better line up, no extras to cause soem sort on the bottom <10> ok <10> they do <0> short <5> Deryl: yes, but those options reduce performance by a lot <10> it's just that i can't reach a few of the spots <10> when my mobo is actually in the case <4> sparr: Well life is just full of disappointments isn't it. <9> sparr: you're asking for a situation that INHERENTLY reduces performance from the 'native' execution <10> i am surprised i got this far already :) <9> even in LINUX or FREEBSD that's the same <10> I have the ram, psu, processor, and heatsink installed as well as a cd rom drive <5> Deryl: i choose to disbelieve that, considering that some windows games run faster under emulation in linux, WITH the feature im asking for. <9> sparr: and I'll step up and tell you that's bull**** <9> the closest you'll come to that would be the quake series <5> Deryl: whatever reduction in performance the feature i want might incur is so miniscule that i dont care about it compared to the loss from running 3d acceleration under an emulated system <9> (without using the open sourced engine builds) <5> i didnt say native linux games <5> those almost all run faster <9> sparr: then write better hardware emulation support <9> for ALL native systems
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