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<0> ok, time to decide. bore myself to sleep with some asp.net web design or simply say **** it and crash out
<1> say **** it and drink some vodka
<0> z0g^^: oh dude, btw, if you ever have the need to buy windows based webhosting.. do NOT, i repeat, do NOT go with webhost4life.com
<2> nfs!
<1> hehe. thanks for the tip. i have a personal webhost at NearlyFreeSpeech.net
<1> pay only for what you use
<1> they freaking rock. at my rate of usage, i spend around 10 to 20 bucks per year at most.
<0> 1) they had NO idea that Atlas was a FREE framework (they told me I had to get a license for it from Microsoft), 2) they want 30 bucks to install the package which is less than 2MB, and 3) they wanted to charge me to change the p***word on the main account even though they offer no web based option to do so, nor access to the account login TO change it
<2> don't touch it!
<2> Don't touch
<1> nfs isnt windows however. though, thats a good thing.
<0> z0g^^: actually I've heard some pretty decent things about NearlyFreeSpeech.net
<0> scale of 1 to 10? 10 being tops of course..
<1> i first heard about them when bugmenot was booted from their original host, and moved to nfs
<1> so i moved to them and havent looked back
<0> well, for me, I'm moving away from php and the like to .net design
<0> (I say design because well, it pretty much is a case of design with a smidgeon of coding work to do)
<0> z0g^^: they offer Apache2 + Mono by any chance?
<1> good question.
<1> i dunno
<0> looking on the site now.
<1> i really just use it to host photoshops on fark :D
<0> i definitely see they load fast
<1> yeah they claim they can not only withstand a slashdotting, but it happens to them several times a month and their servers can handle it
<0> hahaha I like their picture for Proof
<0> lint on the far left
<1> heh. good sense of humor :D
<1> ive got a feeling the entire company is run by one or two people
<0> Lint shown is actually dryer lint but was placed in a genuine pocket prior to photographing for the sake of accuracy. It is not currently possible to purchase our services with pocket lint or any other type of lint.
<0> hahahaha
<1> which is cool - less overhead.
<0> true
<0> i don';t care if it's run by 1 or 100, as long as they're there when you need them
<0> not often I have to call for support issues, but nice to know someone is there and actually gives a damn and isn't like **** you we already got your cash.
<1> and theyre not likely to take some christian religious stance against you if you decide to host a site named www.leather-clad-midget-tran***ual-swingers.com
<0> HAHAHAHAHA
<0> dude, you're hilarious
<3> omg.
<1> thats a visual eh
<0> unfortunately.. yes :/
<0> I got a mental snapshot of Tatto in high heels and leather. scary
<1> HAHAHA
<0> now i KNOW i'm not sleeping for awhile
<1> heh.
<1> im on some kind of roll tonight. i was partying all saturday night, didnt even sleep, though i missed the company spring picnic today, but still managed to hit up a semi-local bar with some coworkers
<0> hrmm what kind of traffic you get to your site? wondering what the average expectation would be for BW usage. I know my gallery.pgpkeys.net site doesn't get a lot of traffic but i still manage to use 5 to 10gb
<1> that was rather nice actually cause once i had some beers in me i didnt feel like **** anymore
<0> hehe lack of sleep is the best time to pitch the jokes
<1> so essentially the last sleep i had was friday night
<0> amazing the funny **** the brain can dredge up when tired :)
<1> Yeah
<1> sleep deprivation is almost as good as a drugs
<0> hehehe
<0> no argument there
<1> traffic at my site? beats me. i put $10 at a time into the debit system and it emails me when its low
<0> hrmm.
<1> do a GIS for "money in nose"
<1> thats me.
<1> though thats not hosted at nfs
<0> GIS?
<1> its really amazing how google picks up on **** like that. i swear i only put that picture up to show one or two people
<1> google image search
<0> philz.dyn.dhs.org
<0> hahaha that you?
<1> yep
<0> christ, those quarters?
<1> right now i still subscribe to dhs.org for dynamic dns though i have finally converted to a static ip
<1> Yes, $2.50 worth of quarters.
<0> heheh, mental
<0> sec. checkin out your site
<4> Yes, that would describe young z0ggy
<4> :-p
<4> But he's cute ... so he can get away with it. :-p
<1> I saw something on Jay Leno or Letterman, or something like that, the kid put $2.00 worth of quarters in his nose. I figured I could beat it.
<1> so thats why I did that
<0> hrmm dnet-now.gif is takin forever to load off your site
<1> eh maybe apache freaked out. its restarted.
<0> sec
<1> someday i may get a dedicated server box
<5> what apache version you running?
<0> http://philz.dyn.dhs.org:8080/index.asf a deadstick?
<1> 2.something
<5> im not happy with apache 2.x
<5> =/
<0> i love apache2
<1> yes thats dead. index.html hosts an embedded WiMP that was originally intended to stream video
<0> friggin apache1 is s l o w compared to apache2
<1> i dont have the encoder running right now,
<0> and now that they've fixed the php threading issue with apache2, it's great
<0> ahh
<5> eh its all about personal preferance
<0> true
<0> man, truth be told, I'd be quite happy with Apache2 + latest stable Mono DSO for it.
<1> apache2 is quite nice. vhosting is so incredibly easy with it.
<0> i'd be happy with .net 1.1
<0> z0g^^: oh hell yeah
<0> <VirtualHost> entries are so easy, my mom could probably set it up
<1> :D
<5> iis isnt too bad anymore
<5> but i'd still choose apache over it anyday of the week =P
<0> sR: it's not that. it's the underlying operating system. Windows is OK, don't get me wrong. but I'm FAR more comfortable with managing FreeBSd and Linux servers
<3> Shuddap.
<0> XTR: kiss my *** you drunken monkey
<3> k.
<5> yeah this is a win box but i do prefer *nix
<1> we run all our publically accessible servers, ie, smtp/pop3/imap/ftp/http/poptop on linux. i wouldnt ever run a windows box that is directly on the internet
<5> just some games dont work properly under Cedega so im forced onto windows
<0> z0g^^: me either. port forwarding is just fine :)
<1> we run a windows network, on the internal servers and workstations, but for our internet presence, thats linux
<1> well, i have some linux workstations
<0> I spent *many* a year running linux. However, I do have to say, for all the love linux has shown me professionally and personally.. I love me some freebsd
<1> linux happens to run some engineering apps better then windows
<0> freebsd is what OpenBSD would be like if it had any balls under the hood :)
<5> gah im a nerd, im listening to the advent children soundtrack
<5> =(
<1> i havent had much (any) *bsd experience. just some slackware, redhate, and opensuse at the moment. im about to install some FC5 this coming week though.
<0> hehe hey listen to whatever you want. I'm 35 and still listen to techno, and I'm definitely hooked on rock & roll, and cl***ical.
<5> i run debian unstable on my other box
<1> at the moment, opensuse is my favorite
<0> z0g^^: set up a testbox with debian and FC5
<0> tell me honestly when you're done which you prefer
<1> k
<1> i honeslty dont think it matters much at this point. ive got enough experience under the belt that you can just sack me onto a floppy based slackware system and i can get the **** up and running
<0> use debian testing too. stable is fine, don't get me wrong. just testing is the perfect compromise within the debian frame of things between 'more current' and 'sufficiently audited'
<5> sid for the win =P
<0> hehe SLS Linux. I miss them days :)]
<0> sR: there is NO way i'd even THINK of running sid in production]
<0> not even close
<1> i think its cute when a distro makes stuff convenient, but even with SuSE, YaST does quite a bit, but youre STILL EDITING TEXTFILES. that is something that isnt going to change
<5> hehe i dont blame you =)
<0> i'll run sid here at home, but not a damn chance I'll run it prod
<1> so just learn how to configure **** based on textfiles, then it doesnt matter what distro you use
<0> z0g^^: hehe
<5> install slack a few times, you'll get good lol
<0> true. so long as the distro complies with POSIX (duh) and the FHS2.x you're pretty much golden
<0> just as long as I never have to deal with spec files again, I'll be happy
<0> sR: naw, LFS
<1> ive really only been sticking to RHEL or SLES because the software we use at work is certified for it.
<5> yeah that too
<0> slack is still packaged :) LFS now.. now there's sinking your teeth into the real meat
<1> technically its not certified for OpenSuSE, just SLES, but ive got it working fine under opensuse
<5> i've never done a LFS install yet
<5> still debating if i want to lose that much time of my life
<5> =P
<0> z0g^^: yeah. I'm glad I've maintained my RHCE if for no other reason than professional
<0> sR: if you truly and totally want to understand A) what goes into a distrib rollout and B) what makes a linux distro (any) tick, LFS is the way to go
<1> i cant wait to get FC5 installed this coming week. rather excited. i really like suse though. and i like to support novell as they really have had quite a superior product over MS for the longest time
<1> we've bought a number of licenses of SLES in the last couple years
<0> i refuse to touch anything RPM based these days unless I'm getting paid.
<0> i just won't do it
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