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<0> I'm a teacher not a student
<1> that would be enabled in the content filter section of ISA
<0> whats the 2004 denote?
<1> version
<2> year 2004 you dolt.
<1> they might have the previous version, who knows
<2> 2003 actually
<1> make SURE you know EXACTLY what you're doing or you could enable that for EVERYONE which the school obviously does not want
<3> Ovy - Hey, hows it going?
<0> sartan is aka miss mannerz
<1> you could end up violating the school's AUP
<3> hello
<2> ****ERS LOLZ.
<3> can anyone help me?
<1> and sartan the most recent version is 2004
<0> Deryl, why would enabling downloads of video clips be so restricted?
<1> http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/default.mspx
<3> i have just got an ipod 5th gen
<1> Linus-: because they can be used to A) send viruses since asf, wmv, and other extensions are simply containers
<3> i am trying to install the software but it gives me an error
<0> well, can't that be true of jpegs?
<3> as follows
<2> yeah deryl but it was deployed in 2003.
<3> 1608: unable to create installdriver instance, return code: - 21
<2> i was learning ISA in 2003 on isa 2004.
<1> not to mention that you can send private info in and out in those containers, AND people should NOT be downloading movies or dvds on school lines
<3> *2147024894
<3> how can i stop that
<2> reboot
<0> der, students did it for years under NT 4
<3> i have done many times
<1> you're there to learn or to teach. not be leeching on a school backbone
<0> damn nick completion
<2> i would cl***ify 750mb .jpg downloads as suspicious
<2> chalk one up for IDS systems.
<1> hehe
<0> Deryl, we subscribe to a streaming video service that is strictly educational videos
<0> for studnets research
<3> ....
<4> stud nets? sounds pornographic.
<0> yeah
<1> and they probably have it locked down to known IP or IP pools that this will be streamed from
<0> add to spellchecker ;)
<1> and they've poked holes in the rules for that specific resource
<0> Deryl, i don't follow
<0> who has?
<1> the school administrator
<0> you give her too much credit!~
<1> whoever is operating the ISA or other firewall software
<0> she is in the dark trust me
<1> well you obviously can't download now can you
<1> i call that sufficient credit
<0> because she set it to a generic high security setting
<0> i thought 2003 was supposed to be granular?
<1> she was smart enough to know that was probably the best setting for the school
<3> sigh
<1> most schools SHOULD be on the generic high with specific holes for specific access in or out poked through
<0> that's what my question is then i suppose
<1> schools are NOTORIOUS for being used as attack vectors on business networks, spam senders, and music / video downloads
<0> is there a specific setting for those files or is it rolled into a privilege/access level?
<4> oh man, you GOTTA be ****ting me. best buy's list price on the hauppage PVR-150 is $199.99. newegg's price is $87.99.
<1> there's specific settings
<2> natasha was notorious too
<1> part of the content filter section.
<2> from bullwinkle
<0> under ISA?
<0> ok
<4> heh, i was DDoSed from multiple UCSD computers last year.
<1> you can go granular as to say yes allow these extensions to THIS IP ONLY
<1> but make SURE you know what you're doing before you go poking holes
<5> a lot of schools have m***ive amounts of bandwidth too
<0> would it be in internet explorer subset?
<1> BBS: yep
<5> and a lot of curious kids
<1> your admin WAS smart to use the generic high security setting
<0> Deryl, she just left the default setting
<1> now all you do is poke the needed holes through AND DOCUMENT THOSE HOLES AND WHY THEY"RE THERE
<1> Linus-: that setting has smart rules to it
<0> she hasnt the background in ms server os
<1> so she wasn't stupid for doing it
<1> it also gives you a handle on what you DO need to allow
<1> and as a school you should be documenting every single hole you poke, what the rule does, where to allows access to, and WHY
<0> that's the issue, she doesnt know where to look for the tick to enable it
<1> well businesses should do this, healthcare, government, educational, and SMB
<1> then why doesn't she go to http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/default.mspx
<0> i will be sending her there!
<1> and start reading the docs and the manual that came with ISA and the help file that comes with it?
<4> is she hot?
<0> why are you getting upset?
<1> i'm not
<0> well, the riot act was read it seemed ;)
<0> i mean, i appreciate the ***istance, but I'm afraid, dave
<0> :)
<1> because as a school you can be used quite easily as an attack base against quite a few targets around the world. schools are the number one attack base
<0> we have 100 workstations
<0> all our base belong to us ;)
<1> so unless you do all of what I said you can actually open yourself to lawsuits, to computers being grabbed by the feds, ect ect
<0> Deryl, for enabling the dl of asf?
<1> it only takes 1 person with enough know how
<0> the settings for teachers profiles already allow it
<0> and that's another generic setting she set
<6> how will 2 ati cards work on an SLU board?
<6> *SLI
<1> Linus-: actually yes. you do realize that if students download porn or other non scholastic data using the format you enabled you can be held liable
<0> i liked ati slu better because its scrambled as I a slut
<1> that's why MIT lost a crapload of THEIR systems because of this same issue
<0> Deryl, yes i know that
<6> o_0
<1> ok
<1> just making sure
<6> ok seriously?
<0> our filtering service is nothing if not overly restricting
<1> if i was your schools consultant I would be remiss in my duties if i didn't tell you about that or warn you
<0> kids can't even access myspace.com :)
<1> why do kids need access to myspace.com from school?
<1> what does myspace.com add to your curriculum?
<0> Deryl, but under the default settings a kid can easily dl jpegs, gifs, and i imagine wmfs
<0> it was a joke
<0> sarcasm
<1> ahh see, text does little to p*** that through ;)
<0> i hate that site
<1> just as you thought i was getting mad, when i'm really not
<0> me wonders what the motives are of the site owners
<0> anyway
<1> :shrug:
<6> ok if i get a Gigabyte 8N-SLi mobo, will 2 x ati's work on it?
<0> our district p***ed new policy enabling us to expel kids who post slanderous things on myspace type sites
<0> even if from home
<1> ehh they shouldn't be able to do that if they do it from home NOT using any school related addresses or physical material
<1> if they logged into their student accounts and started writing stuff then yeah
<0> if they mention the school and/or its staff by name i guess
<6> ok i like being ignored, any other channels i can ask in?
<1> but if they're using their own personal addresses and home links.. no
<0> sorry, NSCPR
<7> Why is Derly so fat?
<1> NSCPR: why consider it that we're ignoring you? why not consider that we just don't know
<0> Deryl, that was my contention, but this is a catholic school diocese, they do what they want
<7> the Derly manG
<6> oh
<1> Linus-: hehe true
<6> ok any suggestions of a channel i can ask in?
<1> NSCPR: i don't have any
<0> our new principal was harshly dissed by 2 8th grade girls at beginning of year
<6> hmm ok
<0> who were stupid enough to use real names
<6> lemme join random channels
<0> NSCPR, try #help
<2> #freeblowjobs
<1> you'd probably find better aid using google
<0> or that's what theyll tell you to do :)
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