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<0> i enjoy the benefits of its functionality
<1> I'm ***uming most other modern pbx systems can do all sorts of advanced call routing as well
<2> BBS, I don't want PRIVATE CALLER to ever show up on my caller id system tho
<2> And that's Vonage's lacking
<0> that might be your mom calling from a friends house!
<1> Hawkeye - I'm glad that ameritech and bellsouth can do it, but most phone companies that I know don't offer that service
<0> "come get me son i'm drunk" etc
<2> BBS, ACR?
<2> Anonymous Call Rejection
<1> it's not available from verizon up here, nor other CLECs here
<2> Hmmm
<0> Hawkeye
<3> ight all. enough work for one evening + morning
<0> i think you're getting confused between anonymous calling vs unknown caller id
<2> Its been common enough in my life that it has an abbreviation.
<0> anonymous calling is a choice the caller makes
<3> s/ight/night/
<0> unknown name/number has various reasons behind it
<2> BBS, did someone just tell me I don't know what I'm talking about?
<2> ACR
<0> normally that the originating telecom to the destination do not have the apropriate infrastructure to tx/rx the cid#/cnam info
<2> Anonymous Call Rejection
<2> !google acr
<4> http://www.acr.org/
<1> Hawkeye - you've been known to not know everything once in a while :)
<2> !google vonage acr
<4> http://www.vonage-forum.com/sutra34356.html
<2> BBS, have I?
<2> Hmmmz
<2> :-p
<2> !google clec acr
<4> http://eclecticspaghetti.blogspot.com/
<2> !google pots acr
<4> http://reserveamerica.campingworld.com/browse/skus/index.cfm?skunum=21475
<2> Okay, the camping world one is new
<2> Disgregard it
<2> toor, I know exactly what ACR means.
<2> ACR means that any call that is anonymous to me is rejected.
<2> If you don't have caller ID info, you get my voicemail.
<2> Or some fun message and then my voicemail.
<2> The lack of ACR is actually the biggest gripe about Vonage.
<2> Supposedly ATT Callvantage has it.
<2> Or whatever the hell they call their VoIP
<2> BBS, technologically, VoIP wins.
<2> But its still under fire
<1> from what?
<2> Remember the kid that died because his parents didn't set up their 911 service right?
<5> yeah I heard about that
<5> they didn't turn it on @vonage.com
<1> no, I hadn't
<5> Vonage prints it in BIG BRIGHT RED LETTERS now
<1> I don't know about other services though, but Vonage is VERy persistent in getting you to set it up
<2> The 911 aspect is where VoIP has a few fall outs.
<1> weekly emails, letters, etc until you do it
<5> BBS yeah
<2> BBS, yes they are.
<2> But a kid died because someone didn't follow through.
<2> And remember.... this is the country where the dumb**** isn't at fault.
<2> Hmmm, that reminds me.
<6> let's take the warning labels off all the dangerous products and let nature sort things out.
<2> pizza_biz, I'm with you on that one.
<2> And yes, I did it.
<2> Hell, I probably did it day one.
<2> If I pick up and dial 911 ... its linked to the right address.
<2> BBS ... I will say this much ... E911 needs more work.
<2> Cellular E911 is easy
<2> IP E911 is ... well IP is anywhere.
<1> sorry,w as writing an email
<1> I don't see how it's the provider's fault either though
<2> Its not.
<2> But ...
<1> unless they were negligent at the time on not informing people to set it up
<1> but the most they can do is send notices, put a sticker over the phone plug that says "set up e911", etc
<7> !help
<2> Oh well yeah ... first thing out of the box when you buy a vonage device is a setup 911 thingie
<2> BBS, but remember where we live.
<2> 1 dead kid means 10 years back
<2> Any death of a child is bad.
<2> But those parents deserve any grief that they've gone through.
<1> I agree
<8> um
<1> at the same time, vonage (and other providers) COULD default the e911 to the billing adress they have
<8> why doesn't vonage setup 911 by default
<8> they know where you bill
<8> yeah
<2> But ... the 911 issue is going to cloud VoIP for awhile.
<8> also
<1> Gimp-Work - my guess is the 911 providers demand that they have an exact adress
<2> BBS, my vonage billing address is in Georgia.
<1> not a guess
<8> your cable provider knows the physical location of every ip
<8> so wtf
<2> I live in Florida.
<5> they could have an automated computer call you every 10 minutes
<1> Gimp-Work - that's a level of integration that we're nowhere near and you know that.
<5> "Please set your 911 address"
<8> still
<9> how about not activate your service until you do the 911 stuff
<2> Gimp-Work, if I take my vonage adpater to ohhhh germany
<8> they do know it
<1> honestly fk, yeah, they should.
<2> Which I can do
<5> Barsky: yeah
<2> And hit 911
<8> hawk, then you shouldn't ****ing call 911
<2> What then
<10> Then they should fine you
<8> because germany doesn't even USE 911
<2> Yeah, they use 999
<5> I use my Verizon Disconnected land line for 911 :D
<5> I'm not taking chances
<5> can't use it for regular calls, but 911 has to work by law
<1> There could certainly be a disclaimer that you can click on for "I don't want 911 and take all responsibility blah blah blah" for people who specifically travel with it
<2> Gimp, who pays for the extra costs for Vonage to talk to RoadRunner which for me is BrightHouse?
<8> you do
<5> Brighthouse's "digital phone" has E911
<2> FK, so they say
<8> yes because they are lying
<2> But then again
<5> their digital phone is pricey tho
<2> They get a easy thing.
<8> ignore those federal regulations
<5> Hawkeye: is it against the law to test 911 ?
<5> in FL
<2> FK, if you have VoIP from BH .. they know where you are.
<2> FK, in FL? I don't know.
<2> My FL lawyer friend is asleep
<8> try it and see
<10> I'd just call the regular police or sheriff number and ask them
<2> I'll ask him tomorrow night.
<9> oh, the heck with 911. thin the herd
<10> "I'm setting up a new PBX, can I test 911?"
<2> MrMojo, and have them go "huh?"
<9> people to stupid to sign up for em, screw em
<10> Why would they go huh?
<9> except for the Ps messing it up for the kid
<10> It's one way to setup a 911 test
<2> MrMojo, because the people at that number are receptionists.
<10> Why do you think they'd be stupid about it?
<9> then arrest the parents for whatever death due to neglect is
<10> What the **** number do you call for the police?
<8> 0
<10> When I call the police or sheriff number, I talk to a person that works for the police or sheriff
<2> MrMojo, if / when I need the police .. 911
<10> Not a simple receptionist
<10> I didn't say call 911
<10> I said call the police and ask if you could test 911
<2> And you live where again?
<10> It doesn't matter
<6> am i going to hell for finding this hysterically funny? http://sinfest.net/comics/sf20060518.gif
<10> Not all police calls are emergencies
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