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<0> the the owner was using screen protectors and there's no scratches, sure
<1> Well, he didn't use protectors.
<1> But I would get lockline coverage.
<0> lockline?
<1> That's sprint's insurance provider
<0> they'll cover a phone they didn't sell to you direct?
<0> how can they ensure it's good in the first place if you bought it used?
<1> Takes a little m***ageing
<0> heh
<1> I would be buying from someone that works for Sprint Ltd
<0> if that's the case, buy the cheapest, broken piece of **** 6700 you can find on ebay, wait 2 months and "lose" it on the bus
<1> Heh
<1> I can only m***age into insurance if I buy from him.
<0> ah, ok
<0> was gonna say :)
<1> There's a change happening with sprint next month.
<1> They're spinning off their local tone system into a new company.
<2> I love how you can't just buy a ****ing phone
<0> if thye're smart, it's so they can sell it off :)
<1> I dunno
<1> Its a good division for them.
<0> local phone carriers are going to be out of business soon. it's all going to be IP providers
<1> But the fact that its going into a new name is gonna hurt.
<0> yeah, but sell it now while it's still worth money
<1> Tr
<0> long term, they're days are numbered
<2> *their
<1> I had Sprint as a tone provider back in 97 when I lived in Tallah***eee
<0> yeah, **** you, it's early and I'm hungover :(
<1> -e
<2> what the **** is a "tone provider"
<0> someone who provides a line with a dial tone on it
<2> oh
<2> see
<2> I call them "phone companies"
<1> RBOC
<1> Tho, Sprint was never really a RBOC
<0> but in the long term, unless someone gives the FCC tax privs on VOIP, "phone companies" are going to die, at least that portion of them
<1> BBS, yeah, but VOIP is underfire.
<0> because just the taxes alone on a phone line are more than my vonage line
<1> BBS, yeah I know right?
<1> My parents just killed their BellSouth line.
<1> They're cell only now.
<2> I'm pretty sure most people in Congress are like "what's a computer"
<2> I'm glad they have things under control
<1> They have a South Ga number and a Fl number.
<0> yeah, we've got our cell phones and the vonage line
<0> I use the vonage line when I know I'm going to be on hold for a while or whatever
<1> My folks will get a vonage line as soon as vonage covers 229
<2> they sell usb skype phones at walmart now
<0> wow, nice
<0> skype is now free for outgoing to us and canada too
<2> right now
<0> but I consider skype and vonage different companies entirely
<2> I consider skype crap
<1> Vonage exists at some level under the FCC
<2> the only thing I don't like about vonage really isn't vonage -- it's this stupid linksys router :D
<1> If for no other reason that LNP
<1> FKnight`, I have vonage
<1> And I have a linksys router
<1> And I have 0 problems.
<2> well
<2> I don't either
<2> but
<2> I have an RT31P2
<2> if you so much as change a port forward
<2> it wants to reboot
<1> BBS, you know the only thing Vonage is lacking? And its ****ing dumb that they don't do it.
<1> I have a BEFSR411
<2> any changes on this router require a reboot
<1> r2
<1> Oldskewl router
<1> Bought this one back in like 01
<1> BBS ... ACR
<1> Anonymous
<1> Call
<0> sec, I'm dealing with a flooder
<1> Rejection
<1> 'k
<3> vonage doesn't have call rejection?
<1> No, sadly they don't.
<1> That's the only fault I can claim after 2 years of service with them.
<2> yeah vonage works great here
<0> I still have an old school cisco :)
<0> I was a very early subscriber
<2> the ATA
<2> yeah
<2> I got mine
<2> in a box
<1> BBS, can it do ACR in its firmware?
<2> I was one of the first too
<0> no clue
<0> it just works, hehe
<1> Well yeah
<2> I bet if you put an asterisk box behind your vonage, you can set up ACR
<0> my only gripe about vonage is you can't use them as a sip provider
<0> even though they're just using sip
<1> My PAP2 has always worked
<1> *brain fart*
<0> unless you spend the extra money on the "softphone" line
<1> sip?
<0> you've got to use their box, not a sip client
<0> sip is the voice protocol they use
<0> there are full fledged sip providers out there (all much much much smaller) that allow you to do stuff like setup an asterisk server and have a full corporate PBX running off of voip
<1> X internet protocol?
<2> can't use sphone.vopr.vonage.com:5061 ?
<4> BBS: no, unable to upload from local at ALL (any size file) but can externally, but only if it's <30MB
<2> as a sip proxy ?
<0> FKnight` - no, only if you subscribe to their extra softphone service
<2> oh
<0> and you can only get the softphone service if you have a hardware box. can't buy it individually
<2> that blows
<1> And why would you pay for the softphone
<0> yeah, and I don't understand their reasoning
<0> Hawkeye - exactly, it's quite pointless
<0> although
<1> If you travel right, you'll have ethernet
<0> but having the softphone on your laptop means one less piece of hardware to drag around I guess
<1> BBS, a friend of mine was in Hong Kong for the opening of the new Disney
<0> my friend works for disney hong kong
<2> You could set up an asterisk server as a SIP gateway and use a POTS card to interface it with the Vonage router, then you'll have your own SIP gateway tied to the vonage "landline
<2> "
<1> I personally don't know anyone with Disney HK
<0> FKnight` - yeah, that's what we do at the office now
<3> Hawkeye - call rejection is more complex than one might thank however *I* am under the impression its quiet easy to do with VoIP but i guess not on a scale that vonage operates at ... oh well maybe later i suppose :S
<0> you need at least one digium card in a * box anyway for some hardware functions anyway, but still
<1> toor, actually its quite simple.
<1> If I can buy a phone that can do it ... not make my phone ring and let it goto VM
<1> And copper carriers can do it.
<5> No they can't.
<5> Don't lie!
<3> i've had various discussions with two major carriers it can be done, but not as easily as one might think
<1> If BellSouth was my carrier right now I could have Privacy Director
<1> toor, BellSouth can do it.
<1> Ameritech could do it in 98
<1> So yeah, it can be done.
<2> GOOGLE CAN DO IT
<2> THEY CAN DO ANYTHING
<3> privacy director can be avoided if your # has appropriate CNAM and is available in the verisign cnam database
<3> privdir looks for cid# and cnam and if both check out the call goes through
<3> you can specify that # that does check to be blocked but its a task one has to do
<1> My favorite to this day is when I inform the occasional stupid individual that they're being reported to the FCC
<3> privdir only applies to residential, business/commercial services are another story :(
<3> that other story is one of the bullet points i used to migrate away from bellsouth
<1> And you went to who?
<0> well with * you can do whatever the hell you want to a call, so who cares what the phone company provides
<3> verizon business
<0> although you can't block a call that has caller id hidden
<3> *** tricks is a swank piece of hippie software
<3> i enjoy the benefits of its functionality
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