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<0> when GSX went free
<1> cisco has an entire product line for doing end device validation before network access is allowed
<1> completeto the level of moving VLANs on switch ports when and where necessary
<2> The frigid temperatures forced officials in Madison, Wis., which had a high of just 3 degrees on Saturday, to cancel the "Polar Plunge" into a lake, a fundraiser for the Special Olympics. Hayward had a low of 26 below zero on Saturday.
<1> scary scary stuff
<2> what a way to raise money for the special olympics -- do something retarded!
<3> does anyone know any good scheduling software
<1> when it was -20 in russia, it didn't stop them.
<1> damn american pussies!
<4> ?
<1> fk, now that virtualization is being embedded into the CPUs, it's going to get even better.
<1> less work for vmware-like software to do which will equate to more speeeeed
<4> do they send the retarded kids in the water?
<2> no, dumb***.
<4> they wouldnt know how cold it is if you told them it was hot out
<5> I'm having mixed feelings about this day...



<0> MrDanger yeah
<5> on the one hand I had to fix the POS auto litterbox again...
<2> mixed? vodka and cranberry.
<5> but in a little while I am going to pick up some weed :)
<4> tell them theres a magic pony under the water
<5> glad it is in that order
<5> mmm vodka cran
<4> save the magic pony
<4> o i guess its lunch time
<5> we should have machineguns in our emb***ies and start firing on these ****heads.
<0> MrDanger: that's why I was saying the other day that if anyone doesn't believe Mac OS X will be running Windows apps side-by-side by 2010 LATEST, they're crazy
<0> the only logical progression of all of this virtualization, down to the hardware levels, is that the operating system becomes a "runtime"
<1> logical partitioning has been done for ages in mainframes. it's just coming full circle.
<6> FKnight`: http://squire.homedns.org/Connectra.jpg <- that's the main portal page, the Disconnect button is initally a "Connect" button, when you click it, this opens up
<6> FKnight`: http://squire.homedns.org/SSLNetExt.jpg
<0> cool
<6> I'm not sure why WebMail is part of Network APplicaitons
<1> just think of providing your desktop constituency with a vmware-like image for web surfing only.
<6> as oppsed to Web
<0> I gotta get a demo
<6> that's just the way they set it up
<1> got a virus? close the virtual machine and restart it. problem solved.
<6> I think eventually that's how you'll see Windows work
<6> the browser won't just run in "protected mode"
<6> it'll run in its own vm
<1> ayup.
<0> yeah that's what I've been saying for months
<1> its the same principle as
<6> of course, how you preserve cookies and browser cache betweens sessions is a problem
<1> "let's take off and nuke the site from orbit"
<0> it's not a problem for me to figure out
<1> "it is the only way to be sure"
<6> FKnight`: ya, I know you were complaining about VPN working, and this COnnectra stuff, from my perspective (re: a users), "just works"
<0> Jet yeah
<6> its a _bit_ cumbersome because it scans the local machine
<0> I'm gonna try and get a demo in
<6> and we don't have a real SSL cert for the portal
<6> so it keeps prompting for ****
<0> well
<6> "the cert doesn't match the site blah blah"
<0> we're gonna have to get a real cert at work anyway
<1> you can publish a trusted root for that, no?
<0> because when IE7 comes out, unless we have a real cert, access is BLOCKED by default
<6> MrDanger: sure, this part of the portal is still beta
<1> users have to integreate a p12 or pem file or something
<1> ah
<1> my certificate skills lack
<1> i've just done it a few times in the past with lots of pain
<6> we'll probably just give people a way of making our cert authority trusted or something
<6> again, not my problem
<6> but damn man, compared to dialing in to do Remote Desktop
<6> this ****ing rocks
<0> what kind of accounting does that SSL VPN give you?
<6> its like being there
<6> FKnight`: no idea, not my gig, I'm sure it logs everything, including my attempts to run telnet and cmd :)
<0> heheh
<1> HAXXOR!
<6> our network guys are super paranoid
<6> if we're using this, it must provide logging
<6> and work fairly well



<1> i am not sure the SEC requires us to log VPN acess
<1> IM and email, yes.
<6> then again, we pay $120 for each of hundreds of securid cards we issue
<0> the reason we want VPN accounting is because we have a lot of people who call in and say "yeah I'm working at home today"
<0> we want to make sure they ARE
<1> hahaha
<1> it's a shame you have to go to that level of babysitting
<6> FKnight`: all you'd know is that they fired up autocad probably
<6> I can't see how you'd know they're actually DOING anything
<0> yeah true
<0> but
<6> well, check for file updates
<0> yeah
<6> for files they should be working on
<0> we can monitor files
<1> unless the software is keeping track of data p***ed per user
<6> ya, I don't know if it can do that
<1> thatis something you CAN do with a 'traditional' VPN
<0> well
<0> once they're connected
<1> tie user id to ip to netflows
<0> I wonder if the SSL VPN appliance has any kind of SNMP accessible metrics
<1> what product or solution do you use for your existing snmp data gathering?
<6> we aren't at telecommuniting... yet
<6> but I can see the day
<0> bottom line is. It's going to take a manager to do his job and say "show me the work you did on the project yesterday"
<6> if I can RD using this over broadband securely
<0> I should only need to go to network logs when there's a productivity problem
<6> and its as good as being there
<1> as the way it should be. the people working for you should be able to self manage themselves, especially if they are at an 'engineering' level.
<0> MrDanger yeah
<6> well, you'd think that
<1> otherwise, fire them.
<1> and hire someone who can.
<6> but it seems that adults turn into children if you don't watch them all the time
<1> some do, some don't. varies i guess. i know i vascillate between the two states, but my job is always done.
<0> yeah
<0> the other thing too
<6> I'm just happy I no longer have to a) install a VPN client that ****s up the way I use my local PC and b) don't have to dial in, dropping my broadband connection just to move a couple files from qa to production
<0> if I work at home. I can actually get EVERYTHING DONE by NOON
<1> in fact my boss and i mostly surf during the day as we really can't make changes during trading hours AND we've engineered the network to JustWork(tm)
<0> there's more interruptions at work :D
<1> i don't like calls at 8p at night saying something is broke.
<0> this ***hole on "Free Talk Live" ... he's like
<0> "**** the IRS"
<0> "I'm not paying my income tax this year"
<0> easy to say when you don't have a job
<0> and therefore, have no income
<7> haha
<8> hey all.. if you're using the DVI connector on your monitor.. do you have to have the vga connector plugged in as well?
<1> JAKARTA, Indonesia - Hundreds of Muslims protesting caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad tried to storm the U.S. Emb***y on Sunday, smashing the windows of a guard post but failing to push through the gates. Several people were injured.
<1> hahahaha
<1> when will this stupidity end?
<0> someone draws a picture
<0> and people start becoming violent
<0> and you know what's ****ed up
<8> anyone know>
<0> people in this country would say the person drawing the picture is the person who is in the wrong
<1> no magica. just the dvi.
<1> dvi from card to lcd.
<8> ok.. and that will work when you are trying to get into the bios yada yada right?
<1> at least, that's what i have.
<8> this acer manual ****s ;)
<1> i beileve so, i've not had an issue.
<8> ok thanks.. off to install it now :)\
<1> to cut or not to cut!
<1> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060218/ts_afp/healthuscircumcision;_ylt=AmIuACcTJPpSW6xj6jqnQJCs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-
<1> go microsoft
<1> On the line up are Windows Starter 2007; Windows Vista Enterprise; Windows Vista Home Basic, Windows Vista Home Premium, Windows Vista ultimate, Windows Vista Business, Windows Vista Home Basic N and Windows Vista Business N. The "N" releases are those which do not include Media Player.
<1> nothing like confusing everyone.
<9> rofl
<9> so wait
<9> Windows Vista Home Basic, Premium, and Home Basic N
<1> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/c0680472-bb5f-4a9c-9480-b16ab3eeb8f51033.mspx


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