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<0> iam using a raid5 card
<0> or going to anywho
<1> most of those, unless they are $1000+ are software raid.
<0> u guys suk
<0> ***
<2> FWIW, I'm running a 4 drive raid array on 300 Watts. Underpowered maybe (it took out one PSU already), but it seems to do alright.
<1> we told you the same thing last week.
<0> they are maxtors with 32yr warrantys
<0> sorry
<0> 3yr
<1> 32 year.... hahahaahah, maxtor is history as of 2 weeks from now.
<0> why is that
<1> they were losing money, and got bought out.
<0> mkay
<1> bleeding red ink.
<3> man. maxtors blow. seagate, its nice that they have this 5 year warranty plan on all of their drives right now, but i wonder how well thats gonna work because, while their scsi drives have done well for me, their ide drives have not.
<1> thats probably why those drives were $25 each. they are probably customer returns that have 'refurbished', snicker.
<1> that means, put back in a box so you can test them.
<0> um
<0> actually i just werked some good rebate deals and bought a 50 off 200 coupon off ebay fro 2 bux
<1> your time isn't worth much, eh?
<0> actually it took 15 minutes
<0> and it was through staples wchich has easyrebates which take about 2 min to submit
<0> i luv the pescimistic attituds
<0> since u guys chat all the time are you all sharing the same cycler
<1> so these were boxed retail drives?
<0> yes
<1> k, they stand a chance of actually having the warranty honored.
<0> still sitting in the red retail boxes
<0> its frum staples
<1> whitebox, is 50-50.
<2> Boxed retail from maxtor can mean as few as 1 year warranty.
<0> of course they will be
<3> run it over with an excavator. maxtors deserve at least that level of dignity.
<1> lotta whitebox stuff is OEM warranty, which means the whiteboxer has to honor the warranty.
<0> actually i have owned prolly 30+ hard drives in my day for my pcs xboxes and tivos
<0> and only had one fail
<3> ive bought probably 45 to 50 of the "oem" seagate 15k scsi disks by now, only one failure.
<0> it was an ibm deathstar
<2> What does all this have to do with choosing an appropriate wattage power supply?
<1> so yer gonna run a 500 watt NAS thats 800GB useful storage.... have you calculated the power bill for this thing?
<3> only 800? wow. man i recently put together a nas with 8 250gb wd sata disks, powered by a dual xeon 3.2 ghz supermicro board in a supermicro ch***is with sata backplane and 3ware 9000 and i dont think it even had a 500 watt psu. maybe 500 watts even
<1> those are 6Y200P0 drives ?
<3> i wouldnt think it had good PFC because during the hurricanes, when we powered that machine up, it made our generators spit and choke and vomit all over the place
<1> hmmm, maxtor doesn't spec the spin up power
<1> seek power is 900ma at 5V + 660ma at 12V.
<1> thats about 22 watts
<1> but you can't just say that the PSU needs 5 * 22 watts, you need to calculate hte actual +5 and +12V currents
<1> 'watts' is about as useful as 'horsepower' is when comparing cars.
<3> amperage on individual rails is much more relevant
<1> what I just said.
<1> and, what really ****s, motherboard makers never spec the power consumption of their boards any more :(
<3> This Silverstone ST60F that we're currently using has four separate 12v rails, for example. Many PSUs have just two rails on +12v.
<2> I think the seasonic SI-12 series I use has redundant +12 rails too.
<1> I'd want to round that up and say 5 drives would add 7 amps at 5V and 5 amps at 12V to the rest of the load of your system. if they are on a seperate regulator, than thats the total
<1> *ALL* PCI-Express qualified PSU's have at least 2 +12V rails
<3> ive read some fantastic things about seasonics.
<0> so u guys think its stupid to build this nas box
<0> for 800gb total storage
<3> also have read some fantastic things about this silverstone. we have just received our first one. main reason for buying it is because its fully modular - were shooting for clean builds, at least as clean as possible.
<0> on a budg
<2> Having done so myself, yes. If you need a NAS, buy a NAS.
<0> but
<0> i will invest 250 not 850
<3> silverstone as a company makes some really high end stuff. i visited their booth at CES 05 and they put on a hell of a show
<0> or more
<1> if you're building this from generic PC components and software, its not really a NAS, its a 'file server'.
<1> a NAS is a turnkey appliance.
<0> yeah
<0> i also want to use this pc for other applications i turn off my main pc(in my bedroom) when not in use
<1> what OS are you going to run on this ?
<0> I wan to use the main server as my gateway from the web
<0> to remotely admin my home system
<2> Turning that kind of rig on and off is just an invitation for it to break.
<0> no\
<0> it will stay on
<1> so lets say its a 500W PSU if you go light weight on the CPU and graphics...
<0> my main pc is the one i turn on and off
<0> k
<1> and that 500W is pretty close to actual load, lets say its drawing 400 watts most of the time
<1> thats 288 KWH added to your power bill each month
<0> mmm
<1> you live where you need air conditioning ?
<0> no
<0> my electrical is split 3 ways and pretty cheap
<0> usually
<0> even with all my electronics
<3> fwiw, right now, on the bench im testing out a dual opteron 250 system, 8gb ram, geforce 7900gtx, two 72gb raptors, two 400gb seagates, and theyre all running fine on an enermax noisetaker II 600w supply. I gander we can easily add another 7900gtx and still be fine.
<0> multiple surround receivers
<0> xbox tivos
<0> pc's
<1> you'll need 1350 BTUs of additional A/C to absorb that heat
<4> having CD Drive problems
<4> light stays on, cannot open and close
<2> Time for a new one, eh padre?
<1> yeah, sounds broken. is there a disk stuck in it?
<5> pop quiz, hot shot
<5> there's a bomb on a bus
<4> nope
<4> I am thinking it might have burned out
<2> _ScottB_: Have you tried shutting it down, using a paper clip to extract any cd in it, then restart.
<4> I have had it since **** 2001 maybe
<4> There is no CD in it
<1> k, replace it. they are very cheap, and have become very cheaply made.
<4> Mine is a....
<1> hell, 16X DVD dual layer RW burners are way under $100 now
<5> amazing how that's come down
<1> [those read and record CDs at 48X typically]
<2> I just gave $45 bucks each for top of the line lite-on burners.
<5> i remember the days when a 1x cd writer was a few hundred
<5> there were about 10 days that was true
<1> I remember when 1X CD READERS were $400
<1> had a number of 4X Texel, Toshiba CDROMS back in the day
<6> hey, im trying to set up a dsl connection on this comp and it is acting really crazy
<1> looks like you're on DSL now.
<6> I have to authenticate the username, so I have to do a dialup connection through broadband in the IE settings
<5> well yeah, that too
<4> Its a Samsung SV6003H
<6> but everytime it tries to connect to any new site it has to reauthenticate
<6> for some reason
<6> so the little connect box comes up over and over and over again
<6> ive never set one of these up so and can not figure out why at all
<5> peerce: i still have a full height cd rom drive with the little case that you stuck in it.. came from my sun 4/470
<1> CCB0x45; somewhere in Network Connections should be an option that says to stay connected
<7> Aurelius: are you the guy from #flirts?
<5> no
<5> that's aurelius-
<7> ok good
<7> the guy in #flirts is a moron
<2> Final answer?
<7> heh yeah Tomomi
<2> YOU CAN'T DEPEND UPON INTELLIGENCE, YOU CAN'T DEPEND ON GOD, YOU CAN'T ONLY DEPEND UPON ONE THING, YOU NEED A BUSLOAD OF FAITH TO GET BY.
<8> hi i heard there was a way to send msg's to people on ur network through command prompt, is that possible?
<2> Torob: I believe so. More I cannot say.
<9> Tomomi: net /?
<2> Something like that.
<8> ?
<9> Tomomi: don't you know anything
<2> hehe. I honestly don't know. I've never bothered to learn those commands.
<9> ah ok
<9> it's net send <computername> message
<9> or net send * message
<9> for entire workgroup/domain
<9> but the workstations will need to have the messenger service enabled
<1> and not be firewalled
<4> Where in the device manager does it show CD drives?
<1> under DVD/CDROM drives
<4> I am not seeing that
<9> peerafk: yeah sorry
<4> yet I have 2 CD drives on here
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