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<FKnight`> the VPN **** I'm out though
<sartan> i grew up on vpns. that's not even the issue ;P dns was
<BBS> why would your forward an entire zone to another server if all you wanted to do was change your MX or forward your smtp port via nat?
<BBS> hi digidog!
<sartan> just for lookups, bbs
<BBS> <@sartan> so internal mail.site.com = 10.0.0.5, external mail.site.com = 65.0.0.5. i want my mail.site.com traffic to go over my vpn.
<BBS> what's that have to do with anything then?
<BBS> I don't get it
<digidog> holas
<BBS> and I"m too drunk to care
<sartan> i don't know how to explain it
<FKnight`> yeah
<FKnight`> don't read too much into it
<BBS> digidog - everything's working, yes?
<digidog> think so man
<FKnight`> I think he knows what he's doing, he just can't explain it
<FKnight`> but I'm cool with it
<BBS> good, I woke up this morning and some **** wasn't, I'm glad I had an hour before your 9:00 to fix it :0
<FKnight`> I think I'm gonna reinstall XP this weekend
<BBS> whoever wrote yoru wamtld zone file was a tard, I blame piker :)
<z0rgatr0n> im so happy i finally have a vpn into work... a year and a half working there i finally have it... i dont blame em. a trust issue has to be resolved before granting that.
<sartan> anything goes at work for me.
<FKnight`> they trust you with physical access but not VPN?
<z0rgatr0n> cause i never get into work at time
<sartan> it's kind of nice compared to the way it used to be
<z0rgatr0n> FKnight`: Right sounds weird eh
<z0rgatr0n> technically i could have granted it to myself anytime i wanted but i dont step on anybody
<BBS> I udnerstand that hesitation in a sense
<BBS> if you're there, on-site, you can't go **** with something without someone noticing
<BBS> even if your'e not doing something malicious
<BBS> if a server breaks, they know "he was standing there"
<FKnight`> I guess :D
<z0rgatr0n> i have full access to everything, i could have done anything i wanted, but i just go with the flow
<BBS> doing remote work or whatever, who knows who did what
<sartan> z0rgatr0n: you're not still at the engineering firm then?
<sartan> i thought you ran the show there
<z0rgatr0n> anyway like, i never get into work early. so if a flexlm daemon dies and nobody can load their software, i get a call
<z0rgatr0n> and i live 30 minutes from where i work
<z0rgatr0n> sartan: I do
<z0rgatr0n> Its just that I wanted them to take their time. their previous sysadmin deleted a bunch of ****, ran out the door without notice, and flew to costa rica, so i can see their hesitation in trust.
<BBS> ouch
<peerce> I gotta say, after many years of commuting hellacious distances to work, up to an hour, I'm really glad to be 5-7 minutes away.
<FKnight`> z0rgatr0n: oh well that's different :D
<z0rgatr0n> peerce: it is nice. my last job was about 10 minutes away, thats about 5 miles. about 2 oil changes a year :D
<z0rgatr0n> but that job paid ****
<z0rgatr0n> **** them and the horse they rode in on. i made a clean leave, with proper notice and documenting of procedures, but you wont see me visiting them to say "hi" anytime
<BBS> heh
<FKnight`> I work 55 miles from home :(
<sartan> wow..
<sartan> microsoft sure does ask you to trial a bunch of **** when you download outlook 207.
<peerce> yeah, I used to work 50-60 miles. now its 5.9 miles, and 4+ of those are lightly trafficed freeway
<BBS> I wake up, put on underwear (sometimes) and sit at my computer
<sartan> is there a verison of outlook beta 2007 w/o bcm?
<FKnight`> BBS hehhe
<BBS> and hope I don't have any problems that require me to physically touch a computer
<FKnight`> bcm ?
<sartan> business contact manager
<FKnight`> mine doesn't have that
<z0rgatr0n> oh speaking of MS. I did finally install Vista Beta 2.... I havent gotten farther then the initial login screen. it was rather painless up until then, aside from the NVRaid drivers (I didnt RTFM the first time)...
<peerce> its 1.0 miles from my house to the freeway ramp, 3.6 miles on the freeway, and 1.3 miles to work on 4-lane blvds.
<sartan> cool
<sartan> New visio too!!
<z0rgatr0n> I cant wait to play with it tomorrow. I have it installed on a dual opteron 250 with 4gb ram and striped 160gb sata disks
<z0rgatr0n> it should be smoking
<z0rgatr0n> i'd hope, at least
<BBS> I havne't ****ed with the vista beta yet
<BBS> does it include the winfs beta as well?
<z0rgatr0n> its a playtoy for me a tthe moment. this machine is destined to be a production box within a week, so i have about that long to **** around with vista
<z0rgatr0n> this machine needs to be on the floor and productive, but while its on my bench, vista it is!
<BBS> by FKnight's laugh, i'm guessing no :)
<sartan> Winfs!! w00
<z0rgatr0n> fortunately the machine is nvidia through-and-through (chipset + video) and nvidia has pretty much full driver support for vista so it should be smooth
<z00se> anyone here used adobe acrobat to create forms?
<z0rgatr0n> so far, though, it looks like a bunch of ****ing eye candy
<BBS> !info survey
<z0rgatr0n> granted eye candy is good, but only if its pulled off well (i.e., KDE)
<peerce> yah, nvidia has really stayed on top of the driver thing. I mean, sure, there drivers aren't always perfect, there've been a few minor rough spots, but overall they have a WAY better track record than that other video card company :D
<z0rgatr0n> peerce: Yeah!!!!
<BBS> *cough* ati *cough*
<sartan> so.. i'm thinking of buying VMWare workstation to build a bunch of vmware project files/hds and sending them off to our developers for use with vmware player. one workstation = $189.. 10-15 vmware player images=$0 !! woohoo.
<z0rgatr0n> nvidia has of course made a few mistakes, i recall a gamma issue with overlays at one time, but overall they sure beat the **** out of tehir competition
<BBS> sartan - why not just download vmware server for free?
<MeduMatte> evening
<FKnight`> workstation is better geared for it
<FKnight`> with it's particular brand of snapshot handling and such
<peerce> I've heard that nvidia is a real intense workplace, that their engineering folks do 80 hour weeks for months on end with no letup. come crunchtime its 100 hour weeks :-/
<FKnight`> and plus it's optimized for workstation development use
<FKnight`> and not for server consolidation
<z0rgatr0n> isnt ESX or something like that supposed to be given out for free at some point?
<MeduMatte> is there any sort of File-Count limit within a folder (windows 2000)?
<sartan> esx is too much. overkill
<BBS> z0rgatr0n - GSX, and it already is
<z0rgatr0n> ah gsx
<BBS> ESX is the standalone version that runs on linux
<sartan> think something like having two monitors, and just having your second install of XP SP2 on the second screen, moving your mouse between them
<BBS> GSX runs on a windows
<FKnight`> z0rgatr0n: No. VMware Server is free, it is a fork of GSX. ESX is now Virtual Infrastructure
<FKnight`> that's $$
<sartan> the server version really doesn't accomplish that
<peerce> MeduMatte; NTFS can support 10000s of files in a folder, but too many can cause issues with like GUI and stuff (open a folder and have it take 100 pages to list the contents...)
<MeduMatte> peerce -- soo, having 200k+ files shouldn't be an issue?
<sartan> MeduMatte: i have ntfs storage at work with more than 200k files in the directory
<sartan> just don't type 'dir'
<peerce> MeduMatte; I woudl *STRONGLY* recommend coming up with a scheme to spread those across about 100 folders if you can.
<BBS> yeah, it can take a while to load that directory :)
<MeduMatte> peerce -- I concur, its insane. This is a client machine in Oklahoma...
<z0rgatr0n> sartan: hmm I frequently full-screen a mstsc connection to a server on a second monitor, and the mouse moves between them. I wonder if you can run a virtual instance of a server locally, without having an actual console, or minimized, then mstsc into it
<peerce> a simple DIR command in with 200K files will take a LONG LONG time
<FKnight`> VMWare Virtual Infrastructure (formerly ESX) is probably going to end up being able to manage VMware and MS Virtual Server configurations
<sartan> empty robocopy replications take 35 minutes!
<FKnight`> because the virtualization isn't the product
<FKnight`> the management software is.
<FKnight`> and the "infrastructure"
<sartan> z0rgatr0n: usually yes but we don't have enough servers to accomdate each developer having their own remote admin console to it
<sartan> oh
<FKnight`> such as P2V, Dynamic allocation and reallaction of virtual machines to different hardware
<sartan> i got ya
<FKnight`> etc
<peerce> MeduMatte; create a folder for the first letter the filename, and put them in that folder. /A/... /B/... etc.
<sartan> VMWare server.. hmm interesting
<XTR> Hmm.
<peerce> or, if the filename includes a number, put the file in a folder based on the last two digits /00/ /01/ ...
<MeduMatte> peerce - if only I could. I'll have to take them by timestamp, unfortunately. They're log files.
<MeduMatte> and they're named by GUID
<FKnight`> We converted 5 servers to VMWare Server and that created another 10 virtual servers.
<sartan> i plan, or hope, to use vmware server for a lot of QA stuff, in which whatever app they use for aggression testing can have full control over the desktop for fiddling around with the mouse and keyboard while they can still work
<z0rgatr0n> dude. i live in a 10 floor highrise. how the **** do bugs get this high up to enter my condo and fly around my monitor?!?
<FKnight`> We're gonna HAVE to get ESX :D
<peerce> MeduMatte; eew. sounds like a bad system design.
<sartan> s/server/vmware player/
<FKnight`> just to manage it
<peerce> use the first or last char of the GUID then.
<peerce> or two chars even.
<peerce> /0/ - /F/ or whatever.
<sartan> MeduMatte: you should really do your best to save these files based on date.
<sartan> 2006\06\14\
<peerce> or, yeah.
<MeduMatte> peerce - yeah, poor design. Unfortunately, these are logfiles which are needed nearline (Medical) for transfer back to tablet.
<peerce> 200 thousand logfiles, just sounds wrong.
<peerce> how large is each logfile average?
<sartan> renaming them probably isn't an option so you should just grandfather them and stick them in a 'grandfathered' or 'old' backups directory a nd starting anew and fresh
<MeduMatte> peerce - 56k @ the most.
<peerce> why isn't that data in a database or something?
<peerce> so 25k typical?
<MeduMatte> I'm @ 307,912 files @ 7.9GB
<MeduMatte> some of these have ECG data in them
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