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<Deryl> can I abuse you like the red headed stepchild you want to be>?
<sshole> i'll have to draw the line there.
<Deryl> damn! you're no fun :)
<Deryl> how about a spanking with a bright brown leather belt
<sshole> well, if spanking is still on your mind . . . look no further than then end of your hand. ;-)
<Deryl> wooohooo!
<Tomomi> BIGGER THAN A MOOSE'S TITS
<Deryl> that too :)
<Deryl> see you folks later. takin my drunk *** to bed before i fall out the chair
<cHiKNPad> ?
<cHiKNPad> who are you RKelly?
<Deryl> I'm a Drunk Dave. just the way it should be
<Deryl> <deryl's my middle name>
<LIZrD> how cand i repair outlook 200 3in vista?
<csm> ?
<csm> dont use beta software
<LIZrD> i cant ge toutlook 2003 to repair or install
<LIZrD> i get not responding errors
<LIZrD> this is supposedly a known problem
<Deryl> vista is beta. deal with whatever breaks
<Deryl> your choice to run beta crap, your choice to deal with broiken crap
<LIZrD> i have 2007 beta but i'd like ot fix this 2003 problem
<Deryl> oh well. see the beta list. you run the beta you're on the beta list. submit it there.
<reyeZZo> anyone use newsgroups here, with grabit?
<XTR> Shuddap.
<FKnight`> all vmware servers updated
<XTR> You go FKL.
<FKnight`> with a half hour to spare :D
<FKnight`> what's cool about that **** is
<FKnight`> I won't feel bad about showing up for work at 10
<FKnight`> strolling in
<csm> all high and **** :p
<FKnight`> ahhaha I wish :D
<FKnight`> I'm out of weed
<csm> yeah me too
<csm> hopefully tomorrow though
<XTR> :(
<FKnight`> my primary contact has been on vacation
<FKnight`> in another state
<FKnight`> almost ready to take vacation myself
<XTR> I'm eating.
<Desp> anyone know what happens if you configure vlan trunking on switches but the packet then forwards to a switch that does not support the trunking?
<Pfft> it depends
<peerce> you have a trunk hooked up to a nontrunking switch?
<Pfft> how can it forward to a switch that doesnt support vlan trunking?
<peerce> trunking wraps packets in another wrapper.
<Pfft> the only way to get a vlan trunked packet to another switch is via a vlan trunk. or via spanning tree or something .. in which case its not trunking
<XTR> How much wood would a woodchuck trunk?
<peerce> and the nontrunking switch won't understand that other wrapper and just replicate it, which will confuse everyone at the far end
<Pfft> so the answer to what will happen is: nothing useful :)
<Pfft> aside from contributing to entropy/chaos
<peerce> yeah. basically that end of the net will just not work..
<Desp> yeah, i was just curious... but i plug a second switch into a port on a switch that is not doing vlan trunking, but others on the the switch are, that will be fine, right?
<peerce> yeha, that should work.
<Pfft> yup yup
<Desp> great, thank you... just wanted to make sure i had the right idea
<peerce> in fact, we do it all the time when we hook up miniswitches to the office LAN
<peerce> as the office LAN is all trunked catalysts and vlans.
<Desp> yeah peerce... that is basically what i need to do
<peerce> yeah. I've got a 100baseT drop off the cisco catalyst in our lab hooked up to my own department's netgear 24 port gigabit switch, and it works great.
<peerce> so I can do gigabit between our department servers, but the outside is all 100baseT
<z0rgatr0n> There is something weird about Sorrento string cheese. not every batch is identical. some are more moist then others.
<z0rgatr0n> they are one of the cheaper brands, i suppose i shouldnt complain. Sargento is the cadillac of string cheese but so much more expensive.
<FKnight`> Prince Zuko PwNz your ***
<Pfft> MY ***!
<Pfft> is owned by prince zuko you say ?
<z0rgatr0n> we may be doing our entire office gigabit soon. This one seller on ebay has refurbed 48-port hp switches for like $1800
<z0rgatr0n> they have lifetime warranties, so wtf, who cares if its a refurb
<Desp> peerce: i am setting up some aironet 1100s with 2 seperate ssids linked to seperate vlans, then going into a catalyst 3500 xl switch, and also using a 506e... need one of the ssid's to be able to only access the inet, the other to acess the whole lan
<z0rgatr0n> however, if you choose to utilize jumbo packets, like, 9k, the switch doesnt do translation to standard ethernet packets, does it? i.e., every computer would have to be gigabit and jumbo enabled?
<Desp> peerce: place was too cheap to get a layer 3 switch so it makes it a bit more interesting
<XTR> Entropy rules.
<XTR> It's like beefy, but not.
<Pfft> z0rg - yes
<Pfft> jumbo frames have to be ... contained within their own vlan/segment, or everything on the lan has to do jumbo frames
<z0rgatr0n> that may present an issue with our printers :(
<Pfft> its quite a PITA to try and implement :)
<peerce> Desp; I would put the aironet on a private VLAN thats on a special subnet thats only accessible by a VPN server, then let peoples VPN credentials determine if they get internet or private access.
<z0rgatr0n> i really wanna go jumbo but the printers are the biggest hurdle :(
<Pfft> put all your servers in a vlan and jumbo frame them... most client hosts won't see a shred of performance boost from jumbo frames
<peerce> so wireless users have to log onto your VPN
<z0rgatr0n> oh, no, i want jumbo on the clients!
<Pfft> desp - what peerce said - is what we do.. its the only sane way to do that
<z0rgatr0n> we do TONS of peer-to-peer client to client transfers
<z0rgatr0n> and HUGE files
<z0rgatr0n> 75gb
<Pfft> our parent company is hugemungous (80k people) .. that's how they do it as well .. wireless gets you to a "visitor" net.. to get inside you need vpn
<Pfft> z0rg - oh gebus :)
<Pfft> z0rg - easy then. vlan your printers :)
<z0rgatr0n> i guess i can vlan the printers, and use a servers second nic
<peerce> Desp; if you're doing this on the cheap, check out OpenVPN. has a nice simple clean windows GUI client. uses PKI or p***word authentication. uses SSL as the transport.
<z0rgatr0n> that will be some interesting restructuring, because we have setup each workstation image to print directly to the printers via tcpip
<Pfft> ohhhh the **** of windows printing
<Pfft> ehehehe
<z0rgatr0n> so as to eliminate ****ups when the Windows server throws its arms in the air and says "oops I forgot how to print!"
<Pfft> some of our offices do it that way, others run it all through a print server
<Pfft> neither seems to have much trouble
<z0rgatr0n> Windows server is the most miserable print server in existence
<peerce> I've found print spooling through a windows server is faster for the clients.
<peerce> much faster.
<Pfft> i dunno, i'd take it over lpr any day of the week =D
<z0rgatr0n> but when it goes tits up, peerce
<z0rgatr0n> central point of failure
<Desp> peerce: i am a bit confused... you would have the two seperate ssids to determine this or you have one ssid and use the VPN authentication to determine what you get access to?
<peerce> i haven't had that happen
<Pfft> i cant remember the last time ours went tits up
<Pfft> if it ever did
<peerce> Desp: one ssid. all wifi users must then log on via VPN, and their credentials determines their routing and network access.
<z0rgatr0n> well, we are still running server 2000. maybe 2003 is better?
<FKnight`> yeah our windows printing is pretty reliable
<FKnight`> and you can't ****ing beat auto driver install
<Desp> peerce: but what if the majority of the people are just visitors?
<Pfft> we even found nt4 print serving to be reliable and stable :(
<Pfft> fk - yeah, that's why we did it
<peerce> Desp; you want open access, then fine, that SSID is internet, you use VPN to get in to company.
<FKnight`> Pfft: we TRIED auto printer install with Samba
<FKnight`> what a joke
<FKnight`> that **** was broke
<Pfft> desp - our "visitor" net gets open (filtered) internet access. they can go out and do whatever dumb **** they want on the net.. like vpn into their company
<z0rgatr0n> then again, when we decided to implement this client-to-printer tcpip thing, decentralized, that was when I started the company, and that print server was rather unreliable, and it did eventually go tits up totally and need a rebuild
<Pfft> desp - our employees hit a vpn server if they want to come inside
<Pfft> fk - yeah i tried that at home and gave up .. with one freaking printer. crap.
<Desp> pfft: interesting... this place is in downtown philadelphia though... i need to restrict the "visitor" wireless as well or people will abuse it
<Pfft> what sort of firewall do you have in place?
<peerce> Desp; then use VPN for internet too, with different credentials.
<peerce> two SSIDs gains very little.
<Pfft> or even set the firewall (or something) up to auth machines before outbound access is granted (netscreens call this webauth)
<Pfft> you can just make up some generic p***wds that change regularly .. give em to visitors
<FKnight`> yeah
<FKnight`> that's what we're gonna do
<peerce> yeah, on the wifi have a 'catsplash page.
<peerce> you go through catsplash to get to the internet, OR go through VPN to get inside.
<FKnight`> I call it "The Hotel Page"
<peerce> !google catsplash
<WinInfo> http://www.catsplash.com/
<peerce> no, that won't work :D
<FKnight`> well
<FKnight`> I'll keep that url anyway
<FKnight`> Melodic Rock from Chicago
<FKnight`> that sounds promising
<z0rgatr0n> what in the world is catsplash
<peerce> :)
<Desp> does a pix have the ability to do those catsplash pages? i have no clue how to set those up
<z0rgatr0n> iirc, cats dont like baths
<Pfft> its nocatsplash i think
<peerce> oh yeah
<peerce> chilispot is a popular one
<Desp> and peerce... if the aironets allow a different ssid to be on seperate vlans, how does that not help me?
<peerce> !google chillispot
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