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<FKnight`> sartan trüe
<XTR> z0rg I so want one.
<sartan> illustration!
<Hawkeye> z0rgatr0n, yes ... I rent my apartment
<XTR> Oh, but hold on, Adobe apps work on PCs.
<FKnight`> well
<z0rgatr0n> the mac, with OsX, is going the way of geek... geeks seem to buy them like they drink water. that unix base and all.
<XTR> OH SNNNAAAAAAAAPPP.
<Hawkeye> So yes, they're ****ed up for the fact that it has been 1 week since my A/C went out and I'm still suffering.
<FKnight`> regardless of what app works with what OS
<sartan> i love my new osx workstation
<FKnight`> the creative graphics guy is still a ****
<XTR> ahaha.
<FKnight`> and will not work for you if you don't give him a mac
<z0rgatr0n> i have a powerbook running 10.3, so ive experienced osx, and i ****ing love it.
<XTR> You go FK.
<sartan> FKnight`: and 21.5" $2500 ****ing apple flatscreen monitors
<sartan> TWO of them
<sartan> each
<sartan> AND a macbook pro.
<FKnight`> sartan hhhahaahahh
<FKnight`> yeah
<sartan> and they GET it!
<FKnight`> well
<FKnight`> see
<FKnight`> that's for management to decide :D
<FKnight`> I don't care
<sartan> heh
<sartan> i still want to order my desktop/laptop hardware
<FKnight`> I want a tablet PC
<z0rgatr0n> i want a more modern macbook though. my powerbook is only 400 mhz
<sartan> i'm eyeing a nice thinkpad T60p
<z0rgatr0n> though 400 mhz with 512mb ram runs 10.3 very fast
<z0rgatr0n> thats *nix for you
<sartan> i was thinking about the macbook pro but i want a small little box
<z0rgatr0n> considering you can dual boot current macbooks now
<z0rgatr0n> why but anything else, except for the exhorbitant price of apple products
<z0rgatr0n> i think it looks kinda "chic" to have an apple laptop
<FKnight`> hahah
<FKnight`> HP's site
<FKnight`> "Notebooks (called 'laptops' by others)"
<FKnight`> ahhahaha
<z0rgatr0n> **** the distinction, everyone knows what they look like
<XTR> I want my MTV.
<FKnight`> **** Dire Straits
<XTR> :(
<FKnight`> ****er should be moving my furniture
<FKnight`> not watching my TV
<z0rgatr0n> the big difference is the laptops with 19" screens and dual geforce 7900 cards and dual striped 200gb hard disks with a battery that lasts 10 minutes
<FKnight`> notebooks ****ing blow though dude
<FKnight`> every notebook I've had is slow
<FKnight`> it doesn't matter how fast it is
<FKnight`> it's slow
<XTR> YES.
<XTR> I'm with FK.
<z0rgatr0n> honestly though, at work, we have some HP mobile workstation laptops which we purchased for CAD work, they have 256mb firegl cards and 2ghz Pentium-M onboard, in normal usage, you can get 3 hours on their battery
<z0rgatr0n> if you game on them, you may get 1 hour
<sartan> that sounds just about right.
<z0rgatr0n> thoise machines play a BAD*** game of BF2
<z0rgatr0n> that firegl is a monster
<z0rgatr0n> theyre faster then many of the desktops in the office
<FKnight`> this HP tablet pc can go up to 2GB
<XTR> I hate laptop hard drives.
<XTR> Hate.
<FKnight`> yeah
<FKnight`> 5400 rpm
<sartan> i upgraded my 5400 to a 7200.. nice and fast but it's loud! loud loud
<XTR> Shuddap.
<FKnight`> yeah wtf man
<z0rgatr0n> heh yeah we have 2gb in hese lappies. wish they could go higher
<XTR> Coporate losers want Notebooks cause it's cool.
<FKnight`> yeah
<XTR> That's pretty much it.
<z0rgatr0n> seriously, we have analyses that can utilize more ram, so when the unit is plugged in, more then 2gb would really help
<FKnight`> CAD drawings can get big if your good :D
<FKnight`> hahhhhahah
<FKnight`> in RAM
<FKnight`> you get a bunch of ****in' layouts
<z0rgatr0n> CAD/CAE can consume M***IVE amounts of ram
<FKnight`> and xrefs and ****
<z0rgatr0n> we have workstations with 8gb ram which are still having to page due to the size of the analysis
<FKnight`> how the **** do you have 8gb
<FKnight`> XP ?
<z0rgatr0n> Tyan K8WE dual opteron, 64-bit
<FKnight`> oh
<FKnight`> true
<FKnight`> 64 bit :D
<z0rgatr0n> that board can go up to 16gb
<FKnight`> hahahah
<FKnight`> I forgot about 64 bit
<z0rgatr0n> the hottest 64-bit board you can buy at the moment
<FKnight`> that was stupid though
<z0rgatr0n> nothing beats it
<FKnight`> they should have jumped right to 1024 bit
<FKnight`> **** 64-768 bit CPUs
<FKnight`> j/k :D
<FKnight`> that's the Delta 9 THC talking
<XTR> :(
<z0rgatr0n> we've given up on buying the 64-bit K8WE with integrated SCSI actually
<z0rgatr0n> striped sata2 disks equal in performance
<wasabear> 10 bits just to address those bits.
<FKnight`> I'm smoking shake
<z0rgatr0n> save about $80 per board that way
<FKnight`> I'm done whiteboxing
<FKnight`> **** that ****
<FKnight`> I can't stand that
<XTR> 2-bit no good st0ners.
<z0rgatr0n> FKnight` when you build a high performance system, whiteboxing is the best way
<FKnight`> like
<FKnight`> you buy a nice *** board
<FKnight`> it's got everything
<FKnight`> you find out later when you wanna add another 2 GB
<XTR> FK I started on 20 machines, now I'm like, wdf am I doing.
<FKnight`> in the FINE PRINT
<FKnight`> "may not totally reach 4GB"
<XTR> AHAHAHAHA.
<FKnight`> "YMMV"
<XTR> omg.
<XTR> That's too funny cause it's true.
<FKnight`> **** that white box **** dude, I don't have time to do R&D that Dell and HP pay people to do.
<z0rgatr0n> FKnight`: man, for what we get, check it, K8WE which handles 16gb ram and is dual-x16 SLI capable, that may be a $500 board, but throw in 8gb ram, a good psu, a few striped 400gb sata2 disks, man, you can build a machine of dreams for about $3000
<FKnight`> I got a network to run
<z0rgatr0n> FKnight`: you know what you would have to pay Dell to build that? twice, easily
<FKnight`> so?
<z0rgatr0n> FKnight`: Dell likes to sell cheap bottom-line systems, but when you want something high-end, they start inflating
<FKnight`> I got a three year warranty and a dude to come out and replace parts
<z0rgatr0n> FKnight`: we know this. we dealt with Dell before in high-end workstations
<FKnight`> and I automatically don't have to worry if my OS license is valid
<z0rgatr0n> FKnight`: thats why we whitebox
<FKnight`> I don't even have to track it
<FKnight`> and the other thing too
<FKnight`> check this
<FKnight`> if I go into two insurance offices
<FKnight`> I'm gonna have a higher opinion if hte agent is using a Dell or an HP
<FKnight`> vs. a white box
<FKnight`> it ****s but it's true
<z0rgatr0n> plus our workstations, being whitebox, arent proprietary crap. ever seen a Dell Precision inside?
<FKnight`> we got tons of precisions
<z0rgatr0n> i prefer whitebox honestly
<FKnight`> They didn't seem proprietary
<FKnight`> I've worked on 'em
<z0rgatr0n> Precisions are AWESOME machines, dont get me wrong. but I just prefer a whitebox
<FKnight`> the only thing proprietary on a precision is the drive rails
<z0rgatr0n> psu
<z0rgatr0n> at least on our precision
<z0rgatr0n> s
<FKnight`> but see dude
<FKnight`> that's why we have a 3 year warranty
<FKnight`> :D
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