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	Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 Comments: <0> actually, my prediction is that _more_ Mac users will enter their p*words, because they are convinced their OS is invulnerable <1> http://johndx.com/gallerizer.php?url=http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://files2.imagedemon.com/upload/27022006184959/060211075424-582718128--[1-20].jpg [NSFW] <2> yeah jet <3> That's not a virus, though; it's a trojan. <3> Not necessarily disagreeing with what Jet's saying, however. <2> i like the tits <2> even if they aren't real <4> my prediction is that more mac users will enter their pwords, just because they're too stupid to know better. i don't mean to claim that all mac users are stupid, just that there are a lot of clueless mac users. <5> recommend software to help track down a rootkit on 2k3 server? ;/ <6> is there any program i can run on my machine that will show me which computers on my network are using how much speed? <5> rootkitrevealer <5> uh <5> something hack <5> highjack this <5> anyways netstat doesn't show anything. <2> rootkitrevealer > <2> are you rooted? <4> a 2003 box ain't got no damn root! <5> well i doubt it <5> but netstat doesn't show anything.. it's blank <5> i've seen that before with soem rootkits <3> pizza_biz: Conversely, any Mac users that I taught when I worked at the Apple Store were told to be cautious when entering their p*word, and that it was usually only necessary for installing certain software packages, when logging in, or when waking the system up from sleep or the screen saver. <5> customers box. <5> not my business just curius <5> curious! <3> And that's advice that several of the more popular Mac OS X books give out as well. <3> So for the Mac users who are paying attention and have chosen to educate themselves a bit more, it's unlikely to be as big of a threat. <3> Not only that but this is hardly the first time a trojan like that has shown up. <3> There was one a couple of years ago, as well, and it absolutely failed to make any in-roads. <3> Furthermore, the fact that it does prompt you for your pword, whereas on Windows it would most likely have admin rights already since most Windows users run as administrators, is at least one additional hurdle to its rapid and widespread propagation. <5> I run as admin! <5> mostly due to *ty software that requires write access to everything. <2> like what <2> i dont' run as admin <3> sartan: Right. <2> and i use visual studio, act, and microsoft office <2> just because you refuse to make the effort to make it work <2> doesn't mean it doesn't work <3> Gimp-Work: I thought Act! required registry hacks to make it work right. <2> it used to <2> it rarely does now, only if someone went GPO happy <7> why do people still use Act? <5> i guess i'm pretty confident in my own abilities. <3> Well good for them. They're light years ahead of Notes in that respect, then. <5> i've never had a hacked machine <2> oh <5> not to say that i'm super secure <2> yeah it doesn't work with notes <5> but they're not at risk either. <8> sup[ <2> unless you're in a single user environment <5> hey-oo! <2> notes + citrix + act == no workie <7> my machines off the internet, never get hack attempts <2> :/ <5> i'm behind nat and firewalls. i feel safe! <8> firewall for a lowend PC.. would be.. something that doesnt req. balls <5> And I'm not downloading suspicious software <2> but honestly <2> most software requires maybe 10 minutes with regmon <2> possibly filemon <2> and a simple single shot reg edit script to fix <2> balance that with how many hours it takes to recover, transfer, and rebuild ONE pc <2> oh, and deal with someone whining that their is broken <5> wait for vista gimp <5> tbp was telling me some really neat <5> virutalization of the registry and stuff. <2> like what <2> oh really <2> so you mean <5> each 'legacy' product has it's own view of the registry <2> it can get remotely corrupted <2> werd <5> So.. <5> basically <3> Yeah, there's going to be some reasonable user privilege separation in Vista. <5> it can't proporgate out to other programs if it gets rooted <2> ah, well that makes sense <5> also the c:\ root <9> wooo i love my morning coffee <2> except that it increases the memory footprint by about a billion <5> system/boot drive <9> technically it IS still morning. <5> yeah.. i think it could do that <5> but realistically how much 'memory' does your registry take up aynway <5> and copmared to how much computers running vista will have <2> because unless they ACTUALLY make it a seperate location in memory, it can be pwnted <5> it's a great tradeoff <2> sartan, how big is your hive? <2> i bet it's >40mb <5> that's a drop in the bucket for a gig of ram <2> vista will be larger, of course <5> naturally =) <2> sartan, how many programs do you have open, right now <5> this is something we'll have to see <2> i have 15 <5> i just got in so about 5 <5> by the end of the day i'll have 40 to 50 <2> what's 5x40mb <5> i don't close things <3> I just got a craving for Mexican food. :( <2> 20% of your ram, yes <5> Gimp-Work: I don't think microsoft would let it slip so easily <5> perhaps they only keep the changes from the defaulyt registry in ram <2> i'm sure they only load what the app requests <5> ie only the keys they modify <5> and then everything still has a general 'default' global view <2> but what if the app needs to write somewhere else <2> then it gets denied <5> as soon as i get invited to the beta i'll let ya know! <2> unless you add a "program" permission to the registry key? <2> i think vista will break a LOT of software <2> which isn't really a bad thing, it's just going to be annoying <2> backwards compatibility s <5> Yes it defiantely will <7> i think every major release of windows breaks all kinds of <5> but there is a little hope for us with the legacy mode <5> Win2k->XP was a nice transition <5> XP->Vista sounds scary. <2> that's because it's the same <7> is Vista SP1 ready yet? <2> Programs will no longer able to reject suspend requests or even to delay the suspend for more than a few seconds. <2> uh oh <2> don't hit suspend while visual studio is loaded with your 500mb source tree open, and edited <2> :P <2> this is what i found hilarious <2> i had to sign some "confidentiality agreement" to be on a client's network <2> e.g., to touch any machines <2> but ALL the machines had google desktop on them <2> heh <2> (note they need to comply with teh HIPPA) <4> HIPAA. <2> yeah <2> so they basically, are in violation <2> in a fairly serious way :P <10> Google Desktop would violate Hippa? <2> yes <2> it does violate hippa <10> why? <2> since it uploads your ** to google's servers <2> (google desktop 3) <3> I thought GD kept it all local. <2> 2 does <2> 3 does not, it allows searching across multiple machines <2> mad thunder outside barry <11> and it does that by uploading indicies to googles' servers? <2> peerce, something like that <11> how do they keep track of the scope of 'multiple machines' ? <2> unknown <2> doesn't matter Name: Comments: Please enter the result of the sum 63 + 46 (to avoid spam): Return to #windows or Go to some related logs: #windows #politics #winxp #beginner #freebsd uninitialized +recover files #politics funny perpule hustlin.allnight.nl Wonderbah

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