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<SD70MAC> FK: I keep wondering that.
<Gimp-Cow> and, it's not integrated, you have to install 1.1 first, sp1 is just a patch
<Jet> FKnight`: because they'd have to rebuild the installer and test it... the pre-sp1 **** is already tested
<Gimp-Cow> even tho it's bigger then the 1.1 installer....
<azurejim> http://www.hollywoodrag.com/index.php?/celebrity/image_full/868/ creepy
<Jet> I agree, it'd be nice if it were a finished thing
<iCER> cheers
<Jet> but they need to have the patch add-on anyway
<FKnight`> I guess they have other **** to do too :D
<fdiv_bug> I love the Burger King.
<SD70MAC> He's kind of creepy sometimes.
<azurejim> very
<Jet> I wonder if he's stuffin' brook burke
<pale_blue> he's über creepy all the time.
<Gimp-Cow> but yeah, neither installation package of .net requires a reboot
<teebsgrrl> the burger king looks dangerous
<Joe-7> the burgerking muther****er...
<azurejim> i wonder if he has a whopper in his pants?
<Gimp-Cow> brook's a mother?
<Joe-7> man if he showed up on my doorstep all quick like that
<Joe-7> he woudl see the end of my bat
<teebsgrrl> 2 kids i think
<Jet> Okay, here's what bugs me... I instlaled .net 2.0 on a new system, everytime I go to windowsupdate, it wants me to install framework 1.1
<Gimp-Cow> oh yeah jet
<Jet> it's like, um, doesn't 2.0 support 1.1?
<Gimp-Cow> 2.0 sometimes breaks 1.1
<Jet> I know there are incompatibilities
<Gimp-Cow> and **** that links against 1.1, doesn't work with 2.0
<Gimp-Cow> it has to be recompiled
<Jet> but I'm not carrying all that baggage around
<FKnight`> I thought they were intended be installed side by side
<FKnight`> because some apps require 1.1
<Jet> they are
<FKnight`> and some require 2.0
<Gimp-Cow> that doesn't mean it works
<teebsgrrl> Joe-7: so violent!
<Jet> but 1.1 apps will run on 2.0 if they find it
<Joe-7> teebsgrrl
<Gimp-Cow> not true
<Jet> ***uming they work
<FKnight`> I didn't know that
<Joe-7> the dude is clearly a rapist
<FKnight`> I Thought 1.1 apps needed 1.1
<Gimp-Cow> very very very wrong jet
<Joe-7> I mean, one minute you are alone, then the next he is right behind you
<Jet> Gimp-Cow: huh?
<Gimp-Cow> 1.1 apps REQUIRE 1.1
<Jet> I have framework 2.0 installed, that's it
<FKnight`> yeah
<teebsgrrl> Joe-7: so, you are covering your ***? hehe
<FKnight`> 1.1 apps require 1.1
<Gimp-Cow> trust me
<Jet> and Paint .net runs fine
<FKnight`> and 2.0 apps require 2.0
<Joe-7> teebsgrrl, in a sense... yes.
<Joe-7> :)
<Gimp-Cow> this is why act doesn't run on xp64
<Gimp-Cow> because you can't get 1.1 x64
<teebsgrrl> Joe-7: date tonight?
<Joe-7> no
<Jet> an app can demand a version
<teebsgrrl> :(
<Gimp-Cow> Jet, i suspect paint is compiled to use both
<Joe-7> yeah
<Jet> but if an app doesn't demand a framework version
<Joe-7> this one girl, I dont know if she is daft or what
<Gimp-Cow> yeah but most do
<Jet> it will run on any upversion framework
<Gimp-Cow> because it's stupid not to require a version
<Gimp-Cow> cause then it might break
<Joe-7> maybe IM just on the wrong ladder
<Gimp-Cow> joe
<Gimp-Cow> i can find out for you
<Gimp-Cow> ;-)
<Joe-7> gimp hehe
<Segmental> FKnight`, ok client is installed and functioning
<teebsgrrl> hehe
<Segmental> i noticed SAV has a Client Firewall?
<Segmental> how do i install that for my client
<Joe-7> you will push my ladder off the building...
<Joe-7> and put your own up haha
<FKnight`> Segmental:> don't know. never installed that:D
<FKnight`> I use XP SP2 firewall
<Gimp-Cow> nah it's more of a hair lowering
<Gimp-Cow> generally
<Segmental> k
<Gimp-Cow> SAV?
<Gimp-Cow> oh god
<Gimp-Cow> not corp i hope
<Gimp-Cow> i hate that ****
<FKnight`> what's wrong with SAV CORP
<Gimp-Cow> i gotta start carrying around a flashkey with the registry settings to turn it off, seriously
<Gimp-Cow> it's hard to turn off if it's centrally locked #1
<FKnight`> I generally don't like disabling people's AV software, but ok :D
<Gimp-Cow> #2, it's harder to configure for the same reason
<Gimp-Cow> if you add a firewall into it
<Gimp-Cow> it's gonna be a huge bitch for me
<FKnight`> I think being able to lock antivirus in an ON state is the actual POINT
<teebsgrrl> potty break!
<Gimp-Cow> well fk, you're supporting ****
<Gimp-Cow> i'm trying to install new ****
<Gimp-Cow> it's not like i leave it off :P
<Segmental> sav owns u
<Gimp-Cow> but you gotta exclude certain dirs or **** will just bog down like woah
<FKnight`> if you're trying to install **** on a computer and the IT department has locked antivirus to where you can't turn it off, then perhaps you should check with them before installing software
<SD70MAC> Which version of SAV has a firewall?
<Gimp-Cow> FKnight`, usually they are too retarded to even remember the master p***word
<Gimp-Cow> the good ones pull out a pocketpc and turn it off from there :P
<FKnight`> that still doesn't mean SAV Corp ****s
<FKnight`> because it's doing what it's supposed to do
<Gimp-Cow> oh no, it's a good thing
<Gimp-Cow> it just happens to be at odds with what i want =)
<Jet> can you even get consumer Symantec AV stand alone anymore... doesn't it come as part of the "System Security" or "Internet Security" bundle
<Jet> that contains anti-spyware, firewall, etc etc
<Jet> bloatware
<Gimp-Cow> heh
<Gimp-Cow> yeah it requires 3 different exceptions in the firewall to make act work properly
<Jet> my parents had that **** on their Dell laptop
<Gimp-Cow> cause of local SQL connections and ****
<Jet> a "trial" thing
<Jet> that was like 190MB installed
<Gimp-Cow> yup
<SD70MAC> Oh. I was thinking of corporate.
<Segmental> FKnight` i found my app
<Jet> removed it all and installed AVG
<Segmental> GFI LANGuard
<Segmental> it does deployment of patches, service packs and programs
<Gimp-Cow> also, I love how EVERY ****ing version of norton, has a seriously different configuration layout
<Segmental> saves me time and my dad doesnt need to work about it
<Gimp-Cow> especially internet security
<Gimp-Cow> i have a client that runs 4, ****ing FOUR software firewalls
<azurejim> http://johndx.com/gallerizer.php?url=http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.forumophilia.com/download.php?id=688[48-55]
<Gimp-Cow> and god forbid i turn any of them off
<Jet> Gimp-Cow: that's insane
<Jet> does he think that makes him safer?
<SD70MAC> I wouldn't want to go near anyone that does that.
<Gimp-Cow> also has 3 av clients
<Gimp-Cow> two of which scan outbound mail
<teebsgrrl> azurejim: too much dark eye makeup
<Gimp-Cow> and he wonders why outlook keeps crashing....
<FKnight`> Norton internet security blows
<FKnight`> "Don't warn me about this app again"
<FKnight`> 2 days later
<FKnight`> "I SAID"
<FKnight`> "Don't warn me about this app again"
<FKnight`> etc
<MagicA> does it warn you about itself :) remember crashguard? ahahah
<teebsgrrl> it has memory issues, poor old thing
<Gimp-Cow> heh sometimes when it live updates
<Gimp-Cow> it duplicates your ENTIRE ruleset
<Gimp-Cow> but with the opposite settings


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