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<SD70MAC> pale: Probably hoping to spot live addresses.
<pale_blue> enabled but prompt. 99 times out of 100 i click no.
<Thuryn> i just disabled them.
<teebsgrrl> SD70MAC: hormel tamales? sound icky
<SD70MAC> grrl: But they're yummy.
<Thuryn> there's a guy in my office that puts read receipts on everything
<Cody`> yeah
<flammingo> anyone know a pdf reader in which you can "bookmark" where you last left off?
<SD70MAC> Figure out how to fake them and start sending scads of them.
<Cody`> I think read receipts are universally disliked
<Thuryn> SD70MAC, no THAT is a good idea...
<Thuryn> *now
<SD70MAC> I don't mind them for certain things.
<Cody`> I don't think I have mine enabled as I never get them anymore.. or maybe people just don't use them anymore. I've NEVER clicked "yes"
<Jet> read receipts in Internet email are useless because you have no guarantee the recipient will send one
<Jet> at least with cc:Mail you knew that if you put a read recipient on a message you'd get a response if they opened the message
<Cody`> Jet; That makes them "not very useful" but not "useless" D
<Cody`> :D
<Jet> of course, "read" receipt is dumb anyway, since it's a "they opened it" receipt
<Jet> there is no proof they "read" it
<flammingo> anyone?
<Gimp-Cow> all our email blast **** uses embedded 1pixel image tags
<Thuryn> flammingo, no idea.
<Cody`> it's a "clicked the read recipt button"
<Gimp-Cow> which yeah, doesn't always work
<flammingo> frig
<Gimp-Cow> but works way more often then receipts
<Jet> Gimp-Cow: no longer works in Outlook
<Gimp-Cow> depebds
<Gimp-Cow> depends*
<Gimp-Cow> most of my clients turn that image thingy back to automatic
<Cody`> That's why I like Outlooks "Don't DL images" on default optoin
<Cody`> so bad ***
<Gimp-Cow> cause they don't like clicking
<Thuryn> heh.
<Cody`> Outlook knows what's up with that scam
<FKnight`> just made my FK Mocha
<Gimp-Cow> of course
<Cody`> hm
<Cody`> 66 outside
<Cody`> too cold for shorts? I'll find out
<Thuryn> gimp-cow laziness works in your favor, dude.
<Gimp-Cow> aha, i've got it
<teebsgrrl> what is fk mocha?
<Jet> well, ya, but people who configure Outlook to automatically download images are, um, dumb
<FKnight`> Regular Coffee, half and half, Special Dark syrup, chocolate reddi-whip
<Cody`> ****, I have to find the path of this marathon
<Gimp-Cow> use a remote CSS sheet
<Jet> not to be too judgemental or anything :)
<SD70MAC> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4614736.stm <--- Abobader has been buried.
<Gimp-Cow> so when outlook renders the page, it HAS to request it
<Thuryn> jet, not at all. ;)
<teebsgrrl> i freaking love chocloate redi whip!
<teebsgrrl> its like cheap choc mouse
<Jet> Gimp-Cow: does that work?
<Gimp-Cow> then as long as your email client does HTTP parsing, you'll get the "read receipt"
<Gimp-Cow> jet cause it hits your server
<Gimp-Cow> same concept as the image
<Jet> but does Outlook request remote CSS files?
<Jet> without prompting
<Gimp-Cow> probably
<Gimp-Cow> almost certainly
<Jet> hm
<SD70MAC> We should start sending the Crown Prince bills.
<Jet> okay, that's the next thing they need to remove then
<Gimp-Cow> hehe
<Jet> of course, then HTML emails would arrive all ****ed up
<Gimp-Cow> you could prolly do something with DHTML
<Gimp-Cow> yeah
<Gimp-Cow> well css doesn't really _work_ in ie
<Jet> and people would get a prompt like "To see this email properly, click Yes to download CSS"
<Gimp-Cow> just some wierd subset of it
<Jet> so everyone would click Yes
<Jet> because they want to see the email properly
<Gimp-Cow> i've seen menus on websites be coded entirely using CSS
<Gimp-Cow> it's bad***
<Jet> uh huh
<Hurz> wtf is css
<teebsgrrl> i know what css means!!!!!!!
<Gimp-Cow> http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/menus/demo.html
<Gimp-Cow> pwn.
<teebsgrrl> cascading style sheets
<Thuryn> cascading style sheets
<Gimp-Cow> (don't view it in IE) :P
<Hurz> like a cascading waterfall
<Thuryn> um... sure
<Gimp-Cow> http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/curvelicious/demo.html
<Gimp-Cow> that's also really ****in sweet
<Jet> CSS support in IE is lacking, but it works well enough to make things like pull-down driven menuing and collapsible tree views work across most of the major browsers
<Cody`> "CSS" is another thing I'm sick of.
<Jet> which is all I need
<teebsgrrl> someone needs to be impressed that i know what css are
<Jet> teebsgrrl: oh, we are
<Jet> but you're probably thinking of the game
<Cody`> like, big ****ing deal. Now people get all pissed if you use <bold>text</bold> to make text bold
<Cody`> like, "OMG! USE CSS!@#@!#
<SD70MAC> grrl: Lucky guess? :D
<Thuryn> nice curves
<Gimp-Cow> nah cody it's nice
<Jet> it's about separating content from presentation
<Gimp-Cow> you just throw data into a backend
<Gimp-Cow> and it magically gets formatted
<teebsgrrl> SD70MAC: no, tbp was telling me about them one day
<pale_blue> <b> is deprecated and has been literally for years. at the very least use <strong>.
<teebsgrrl> and i remembered what css stood for and what they kinda are
<Cody`> pale_blue: What do you mean?
<teebsgrrl> Jet: what game?
<iCER> xp services pack 3 out? i heard they stopped developing it.
<Gimp-Cow> the thing that impresses me the most about that guy's site is, it's noticably faster then the javascript eqivalent
<Jet> you know, they should add Microsoft's expression() support to CSS in general
<Gimp-Cow> and certainly faster then flash
<Jet> iCER: you heard wrong
<Gimp-Cow> it's just...responsive, i dunno
<Jet> teebsgrrl: counterstrike:something
<Gimp-Cow> i'm sick of websites that max out my cpu cause they are fullscreen ****ing flash
<Gimp-Cow> counterstrike:source
<rworks> Good morning, sluts.
<teebsgrrl> Jet: no, i knew what it meant in this context, see above where i said what it was first
<iCER> so there is a service pack 3 for XP and it is now out?
<pale_blue> no, it's not out yet.
<Cody`> http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=sports&id=3778555
<Cody`> wtf
<SD70MAC> icer: No.
<Jet> iCER: no
<Cody`> people are already finishing? :D
<Jet> iCER: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx
<pale_blue> AFAIK it hasn't even been formally announced.
<Gimp-Cow> SP4 is out already iCER
<Gimp-Cow> wtf where have you been
<iCER> wtf
<SD70MAC> It will be out around the time Vista is out.
<Jet> iCER: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx
<iCER> im reading jet
<Jet> and now you know
<iCER> cheers
<Joe-7> last I heard sp 10 was comming out soon
<Gimp-Cow> damn the camera on trhe right is way better then the one on the left
<FKnight`> I read a knowledge base article the other day telling me the behavior of Windows 2000 DNS Subnet Ordering changed in Windows 2000 SP5
<FKnight`> this was a 11-05 kb article
<Gimp-Cow> lol
<SD70MAC> The text was probably written before they decided to call it a "rollup."
<SD70MAC> Speaking of which, there's a rollup for a rollup somewhere.
<Gimp-Cow> you know what i hate
<FKnight`> Windows update -> install .NET 1.1
<FKnight`> Reboot
<Jet> or the sp5 code is written and waiting for the rest of sp5
<FKnight`> Windows update -> Install .NET 1.1 SP1
<Gimp-Cow> people running nt4
<Gimp-Cow> FKnight`, doesn't require a reboot
<FKnight`> why don't they just install the latest first ?
<SD70MAC> FK: I keep wondering that.
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