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<Jet> :)
<FKnight`> hire perfect programmers :D
<FKnight`> and perfect managers :D
<Thuryn> i consider myself primarily a linux user and no great fan of MS, but fair is fair, and /. is a bunch of whiny useless terds.
<SD70MAC> I wish it would warm up and the wind stop blowing.
<pale_blue> screwing /. leaves something to be desired -- it only has one testicle!
<Thuryn> *turds?
<Jet> heh. Well, they have procedures in place now to try to mitigate security problems... they do threat analysis of their new development
<FKnight`> yeah
<Jet> the more exposed something is, the more work they put into making it secure
<pale_blue> at least ./. would be fully equipped.
<FKnight`> their build system has security constantly being built into it
<Jet> I mean, when was the last IIS 6 vulnerability?
<Segmental> FKnight` while i am at it, name a application that allows me to deploy **** to remote pc's
<Jet> they ARE getting better
<Thuryn> yes they are
<Segmental> and i dont mean Active Directory :)
<FKnight`> well
<Jet> unfortunately they have a HUGE legacy codebase
<SD70MAC> Yeah, Vista should have much fewer patches for it.
<Jet> full of old bugs
<Thuryn> yup
<FKnight`> the only application I've seen deploy itself properly is GoverLAN and Symantec AV Corp
<FKnight`> *applications
<FKnight`> *themselves
<Segmental> i mean deploy other stuff
<Segmental> like patches, programs, files, etc
<FKnight`> I use AD and MSI packages
<FKnight`> when I can
<FKnight`> when the app dev doesn't ****
<FKnight`> some apps can't be MSI deployed
<Jet> hasn't symantec's own AV stuff had buffer overrun vulns in it?
<Jet> scanning ZIPs or something
<FKnight`> uhmm
<SD70MAC> Jet: Yes.
<FKnight`> symantec systemworks has rootkit technology :D
<Jet> if you had a corrupt zip and norton tried to AV scan it
<Jet> it could execute code
<teebsgrrl> hi all
<SD70MAC> re grrl
<Segmental> brb reboot
<Jet> Managed code would really do away with whole cl***es of security bugs
<teebsgrrl> hi SD70MAC
<Jet> but MS seems reluctant to write managed code, even for their own products
<SD70MAC> Cold and windy where you are, too.
<SD70MAC> Vista is being written as managed code.
<FKnight`> not all of it
<Cody-Cdoy> wtf is managed code
<SD70MAC> Oh?
<Thuryn> jet, well, MS is stuck between a rock and a hard place. you already said it: legacy code vs. well-written managed *safe* code.
<pale_blue> it somewhat boggles my mind that a program in a protected environment could even execute arbitrary data.
<FKnight`> I think the audio stack is C++
<Thuryn> pale_blue, *with* privileges. ;)
<Jet> FKnight`: it is, as is their new "DVD Maker" product
<teebsgrrl> SD70MAC: here? yeah it is. it was like 60 on friday then lastnight it snowed!
<pale_blue> heh, no ****.
<Jet> even though one of of the guys working on the DVD Maker software was one of the original C# guys
<SD70MAC> teeb: We're getting the same strange weather. Tomorrow should be 45, I hope.
<teebsgrrl> not ure what it will be here
<teebsgrrl> the wind is so bad here right now
<Jet> its -3 and raining here, normal high is like -15
<Jet> -3° Celsius is 26.6° Fahrenheit
<Jet> -15° Celsius is 5° Fahrenheit
<FKnight`> there's still gonna be a lot of unmanaged code in an operating system unless the CLR is moved closer to the kernel, no ?
<Jet> FKnight`: yup, it's not practical to write, say, drivers, in managed code
<SD70MAC> I don't know what that means.
<FKnight`> all of the **** between the kernel and user space has to be managed working downward
<Jet> you don't want your heap management code in managed code
<Jet> or your file i/o stuff
<Jet> or your tcp/ip stack
<Jet> managed code is just not fast enough
<FKnight`> yeah
<SD70MAC> Go stuff your stack.
<FKnight`> an operating system is really a special case anyway
<teebsgrrl> Jet: it is 29F riht now here
<FKnight`> as it's the /arbiter/ of the managed code
<azurejim> http://www.blognyc.net/news/2006/01/adrianne_curry_.html <- adrienne curry playboy spread... boobies are unimpressive.. as is the lack of crotch shots
<teebsgrrl> azurejim: hi!
<Jet> but the stuff on top of the OS (paint, movie maker, calculator, etc) could all be managed
<FKnight`> yeah
<SD70MAC> Ugh.
<Joe-7> not nearly as nice as raven... azurejim
<FKnight`> it all sits on top of DOS anyway
<SD70MAC> I thought Playboy was supposed to have beautiful women.
<azurejim> hi teebsgrrl :)
<teebsgrrl> she was too skinny
<teebsgrrl> ribs are not ***y
<Cody`> boobs are a good size, but odd shape
<SD70MAC> She's just nasty.
<Cody`> hahha, 'too skinny'
<azurejim> she looks better on tv... in a bikini
<SD70MAC> You see boobs?
<Cody`> *Bzzzt* Wrong
<teebsgrrl> azurejim: i know you are in FL, but are you nead dsney?
<SD70MAC> Are they where they're supposed to be?
<Cody`> teebsgrrl: Is tbp around?
<FKnight`> in Florida, everyone is near Disney
<azurejim> teebsgrrl: we're like 50 miles away
<teebsgrrl> Cody`: yes
<FKnight`> it's in the middle :D
<teebsgrrl> azurejim: we will be there in april, maybe we can get dinner or something
<SD70MAC> grrl: See the link in the topic for his location.
<teebsgrrl> right, i have seen that before thanks SD70MAC
<azurejim> teebsgrrl: neat
<Cody`> That chick is hot. You're nuts.
<SD70MAC> Which chick?
<Cody`> did more than one playboy URL get posted? :D
<azurejim> no
<azurejim> adrienne curry
<SD70MAC> Dude. Sober up or put gl***es on or something.
<azurejim> she's married to that former brady guy
<azurejim> she was hot on tv, i think
<azurejim> but they blurred the naughty parts
<azurejim> and she wasn't oiled up with every rib exposed
<Cody`> SWEEEEEEEEEET
<pale_blue> it's hard to tell if a chick is hot when she's got a toilet plunger stuck to her face. unless i'm missing something else.
<Cody`> vista remote desktop client supports 1920*1200
<SD70MAC> cody: Have you seen the stuff at winsupersite.com?
<teebsgrrl> pale_blue: azure posted a link for some chick in playboy
<Joe-7> pale_blue, hahahaha
<Joe-7> talk about owned... toilet plunger to the face :)
<teebsgrrl> toliet plunger girl is better than the playboy girl
<Joe-7> hahaha
<yanix> what can I do to make my computer a little faster?
<pale_blue> oh. she's not bad but not super awesome either.
<SD70MAC> Concentration Camp Beauty Queens
<SD70MAC> yanix: Drop it out a window.
<Thuryn> yanix, run less stuff at once
<yanix> I mean as far as software, what can I download that works?
<SD70MAC> You don't add software to improve performance.
<pale_blue> software? HA.
<Thuryn> yanix, software doesn't make things go faster
<Thuryn> (usually)
<yanix> does defragmenation work?
<Thuryn> sometimes
<pale_blue> but usually not much.
<SD70MAC> It helps, in particular if your drive is fragmented.
<teebsgrrl> Joe-7: what you got on tap for today?
<teebsgrrl> hot date?
<Jet> ****ing bloglines keeps changing languages on me
<Thuryn> we forgot to tell him about http://www.makeitfaster.com
<teebsgrrl> oh well
<Thuryn> HAHAHA! It's a blank page!
<Cody`> I wonder if I can set my browser security settings to prevent any URL with "blog" in the title or URL name from loading
<Hurz> no
<Gullb3rG> when i start Photoshop at my computer my internet dies. Some1 know whats the problem ? I have tryed to shut down the most process but it still shut down internet
<pale_blue> har. a spam with a return receipt request. now isn't THAT just ****ing pretentious.
<SD70MAC> Hormel tamales makes me happy.
<Thuryn> pale_blue, you have those enabled?
<SD70MAC> pale: Probably hoping to spot live addresses.
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