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<UBChain> qnir showed up after a few years of irc abstinence
<digidog> fk, the one thing i can say (especialyl in v 7) is that track-it has wonderful ***et and inventory features
<digidog> in 7 its pretty much seamless
<Pfft> wow qnir from carlsbbad then vegas ?
<en1gma> flush Unknown command
<UBChain> ya
<en1gma> i gonna reconnect brb
<Pfft> wow if you see tleaves too warn me first :)
<UBChain> hahaha
<Pfft> hm what was that cmd.. i could've sworn it was flush
<UBChain> qnir sorta disappeared from the planet after a divorce :*
<UBChain> :(
<digidog> track-its problems is the lack of parent company stability and its ****ING SLOW
<Pfft> ah :-/
<Pfft> ya trackit is dog-*** slow
<digidog> well its not bad now
<digidog> it would be over a wan
<digidog> but we have citrix
<Pfft> its horrendous over a wan
<digidog> yeah
<digidog> it has 0 optimizations for wan
<Pfft> yeah we're just going to point everyone at a server in the office here via RDP
<digidog> they need to take lessons from the outlook developers
<Pfft> its actually a little bit slow on the LAN
<Pfft> they probably are - it took outlook developers years to get it close to right :)
<digidog> true
<Pfft> ub - tell qnir (dave, right?) i said hi ?
<Ediehow> hi friends
<UBChain> welp.. back to my RC Heli training
<Ediehow> i inherited a laptop with w2k, how do i reset the admin p***word?
<UBChain> ya, its dave... hes gone fer the nite
<digidog> we are installing the baracuda tomorrow
<UBChain> I will tell him when I call him
<UBChain> gonna catch up via phone
<Pfft> cool thanks
<Jet> Ediehow: ntp***wd
<digidog> i get to tell sendmail + mimedefang + spam ******in to **** off
<Jet> !info ntp***wd
<Pfft> i think we're gonna get an ironport
<Ediehow> oh that's great
<Ediehow> thanks jet
<peerce> Ediehow; I'd reinstall the laptop from scratch, you don't know what crud is on there.
<Pfft> but with moving our corp offices its all on hold for another few months
<digidog> yeah
<UBChain> where you movin to pfft?
<Pfft> also have to finish sox audit compliance hells
<digidog> we moved (split) last summer
<digidog> it ****ed
<digidog> heh
<UBChain> closer to carlsbad? :)
<Ediehow> peerce: i'm actually doing this for a friend, and they gave me no software, and i am not sure if they have the w2k cd:O
<Pfft> ub - just down MM BLVD a couple of blocks
<UBChain> :(
<digidog> im so glad we are private
<Pfft> nicer place, more room, real data center, same *** commute
<digidog> though kpmg visits me every year
<Pfft> ya we got audited etc.
<digidog> i always fill them full of ****
<Pfft> but man it was nothing like now
<digidog> yeah
<digidog> sox you cant do that
<Pfft> gebus god it was brutal
<UBChain> data center be damned... if ya have to sit in traffic
<Pfft> and we aren't fully sox ... we're "materially irrelevant" to our parent company's bottom line (lessee 35M versus 50b or something) so we just have to do key controls
<Pfft> but its 95% of the way to sux
<digidog> ah
<UBChain> of course, traffic ****ed for you when you lived a couple miles away from there ... MM Blvd ****s *** no matter what
<Pfft> im sorry, 5b, not 50 :)
<digidog> we are large enough to be public, but there isnt any advantage
<Pfft> ub - ya
<Pfft> digi - yeah there was zero advantage for us too
<UBChain> but you can get good philipino food for lunch :)
<Pfft> its amazing how ridiculous it gets when you have to answer to a committee of idiots
<digidog> we seem to manage about 2billion worth of ***ets just fine as a private company
<digidog> yeah
<Pfft> (shareholders)
<digidog> thats the one good thing about our owner
<digidog> he hates public eyes
<digidog> and judging by all his ex wives, i can see why
<Pfft> hehe
<UBChain> ok... back to heli sim
<Pfft> cya ub
<FKnight`> How real time is Track-IT? We used to use SMS, but it turned out the **** was regularly a month out of date when you take into account the long convoluted process SMS uses to get info from a machine, to it's collection agents, to it's collection servers, to the whatever...
<digidog> im so glad i upgraded to an athlon 3500
<digidog> irc is so much faster
<digidog> its completely realtime
<Pfft> we dont use track-it's agent/inventory stuff
<digidog> oh well
<digidog> you can set the discovery for every 5 minutes if you want
<Pfft> wow entourage freaking freaky-freaked when i upgraded to osx 10.4.4 :(
<Pfft> im downloading thousands of mails from like early 05 in my imap store
<digidog> track-it uses standard wmi controls for inventory
<digidog> i cant imagine its better than SMS though
<digidog> seriously
<FKnight`> well
<digidog> 2003 at least
<FKnight`> with SMS, the data is traversing about 10 processes across 3 servers over collection schedules and replication processes
<digidog> yeah
<Teratogen> err, what exactly is a clsid anyway?
<Teratogen> just a randomly chosen set of bits?
<FKnight`> you look at your computer ivnventory an it's a month old
<digidog> at least in older versions i remember SMS buggy, slow and cumbersome
<digidog> and overly complicated
<peerce> Teratogen; its a structured random key
<FKnight`> yeah
<FKnight`> and with SMS 2003
<FKnight`> they TOOK OUT functinaly
<digidog> heh
<FKnight`> so **** SMS 2003
<digidog> yeah i dont use it
<peerce> usually dispalyed as one of those {43205fa41}-{1234}... things
<digidog> we use MOM and trackit
<digidog> but most of our inventory comes from our PO system
<FKnight`> SMS 2003 they took out sw license enforcement
<FKnight`> it only tracks now
<digidog> so when you buy something, it gets ***igned to a windows user and department
<digidog> then from there on out its audited
<peerce> errr, cl***ic clsid format: {4516EC43-8F20-11D0-9B6D-0000C0781BC3}
<peerce> its a globally unique identifier
<digidog> so i see that user jdoe has had x amount of equipment procured for them
<FKnight`> computer ***ignments where I work are highly politically charged
<digidog> well yeah with us too
<digidog> we allow several special curcumstances
<FKnight`> so we could have **** moving on a weekly basis
<digidog> but thats ok
<FKnight`> "Move such and such's computer over to so and so"
<digidog> i try to minimize that
<digidog> but citrix helps there
<FKnight`> we are so behind
<digidog> and roaming profiles
<digidog> when someone moves, its rare we move the computer
<peerce> where I work its pretty reasonable. boss says "ok, everyone is gonna need new PCs in the next coupla quarters, spend $4000/quarter and prioritize according to need.
<rworks> Hey, digiwork.
<digidog> unless they had a better / faster system or something and begged
<digidog> heya rworksy
<digidog> it takes us about 6 months to replace systems
<digidog> but we do it every 3 years regardless
<digidog> once something is 3 years old, we consider the depreciation to be 100%
<Jet> here computers are purchased by the dept, so computers don't move with employees
<Teratogen> right
<Teratogen> thanks
<Jet> unles they move within the same dept
<Teratogen> it's random though
<rworks> We do 3 years on laptops, 4 years on desktops.
<Teratogen> wonder what the dashes are for?
<Teratogen> just an afterthough?
<digidog> of course
<Teratogen> seems to imply some kind of clsid structure
<digidog> many of our computers cost a total of $400 for the workstation
<digidog> 90%
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