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<0> What a bunch of geeks!
<1> He controlled the research production of a new type of ammunition, introducing it into the game along with a few other people who were later given copies.
<1> BBS: I used to *love* playing a support character in DAoC.
<2> yeah, that's what's nice about such a small game though
<2> they could never do that in WoW
<3> you guys ever play Knight Online? :D
<2> 5 million people, thousands of characters on a server and one person gets special treatment? there'd be a riot
<4> How much is a used copy of vxworks 5.X worth? Disks and manuals?
<1> BBS: It's not really that small. How many players are active, on average, on a given WoW server at any time?
<1> 6,000?
<2> 6000 on mine, and we're "low pop"
<5> xtor; the disks and manuals are worth squat. is there a legit license?
<1> So, let's say 8K then.
<2> there are some servers that stopped character creation entirely, I suspect they're more than 8k actually
<2> but I don't know for sure



<1> Okay, so 10.
<1> EVE, being a single-shard system, averages around 15-20K people.
<1> They sometimes approach 25K.
<1> So, per-shard EVE's population is significantly stronger.
<2> hah, a WoW server would cry if it ever came close to that
<2> their server/network management is ***
<1> But that doesn't seem to cause a problem, introducing game elements through the players.
<2> yeah, but you've only got one server
<2> you can introduce something and monitor it
<5> ian said that Blizzard just spent a big bundle on several 1000 more servers. like $10M or something
<1> Blizzard could do the same.
<2> I couldn't expect WoW to monitor the changes caused on 1000 servers and make changes as required for balance,e tc
<1> 1000 servers?
<2> peerce - what they need to do is spend some ****ing money on their network
<2> they outsourced everything to ATT
<2> and it blows
<2> for the size of their operation, they NEED their own multihomed datacenters
<2> with real engineers that can compensate for problems
<2> not ATT ****ing around on an almost weekly basis
<2> it's pathetic
<6> Hi
<7> anyone know what is the fastest cpu i can put in this mobo? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131527
<1> Anyway, I need to go snag some last-minute Valentine's stuff.
<2> Zodiacal - go find the specs on the motherboard at the manufacturer's site
<6> Anyone know of a good LAN map Creation Tool please ?
<5> Zodiacal; what brand/model motherboard is it? I odn't feel like wading through newegg's webpile
<6> Has to be freeware thopugh prefferbely
<5> J03BL0GGS; for drawing maps? visio
<7> ASUS P4S800D-X Socket 478 SIS 655FX ATX Intel
<8> anyone know how to get a mounted warcraft iso to run without the cd?
<5> free? a #2 pencil and a pad of graphpaper
<7> heres the manual: http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock478/p4p800-se/e1886_p4p800_se.pdf
<6> or as cheap as possible for 500 users
<7> maybe u can find it in the manual , i coudn't :/
<4> peerce I cant seem to tell if there is a legit license or not
<7> i searched for cpu and speed etc.. didn't really say ghz max
<6> is visio good for doing lan maps ?
<9> there's an open source visio alternative written in Qt
<5> Zodiacal; look at the BIOS update release notes, work backwards
<9> I can't remember the name of it though, I remember it being half-decent...
<7> peerce okie
<4> peerce I see it on ebay, but no mention of a license howerver it says its from an auction
<5> J03BL0GGS; what do you mean by 'lan maps' ?
<6> erm a bit like
<2> yeah, I'm a bit confused by what sort of mapping you want to do also
<10> AND THE SIGN SAID, LONG HAIRED FREAKY LOOKIN PPLZ NEED NOT APPLY.
<5> xtor; then I seriously doubt there's any license at all.
<6> neon dot com like that site
<6> that tool
<6> the lan neon tool
<6> something simular to that
<5> J03BL0GGS; there ya go, if that tool does what you want, USE IT
<2> there aren't too many inexpensive tools that can map networks like that
<2> I've certainly never heard of a free one
<4> peeerce but if someone is selling it in a bankrupcy auction and they have the disks and the manuals...wouldnt the licese certificate be included as well?
<2> hp openview does it, haha
<5> xtor; highly unlikely, actually.
<6> which tool ?
<2> neon
<2> if that does what you want, buy it
<5> as the businesses licenses are probably nontransferable.



<6> gotya
<2> solarwinds is also a good collection of tools that I think has a similar feature
<2> that's also $1000+
<2> openview is an extra zero though
<6> It's just the department got little funding left
<6> so dont think the MD will agree on 500 licence's :(
<9> actually
<7> peerce found the max cpu, 2.8ghz Thank you!
<5> why do you need 500 licenses?
<9> a friend sent me source to graphically map a network
<9> but i deleted it ages ago =(
<2> http://www.solarwinds.net/
<2> see if any of that is in your price range
<6> thanks
<6> Ill give it ago
<6> cheers m8
<9> it worked pretty well, basically a set of shell scripts calling nmap, etc, to do host fingerprinting, it outputted html
<9> so you click on the windows logo/penguin/bsd devil and it'd show the nmap output
<5> anyways, 500 workstations, what, you got 2-4 switched network segments? how complex is this 'map', anyways?
<11> 2-5-2
<2> there's also whats up gold
<2> but I think you have to manually map that
<12> 2-4-6-8
<2> anyway, afk a bit
<13> Who do we burninate?
<6> major complex
<6> the wiring was done on a budget
<6> years and years ago by BT
<2> ok, the us curling team is hot. I need to stop staring and go away. bbl, I swear
<6> its a shambles, seriously
<6> Theres like 500 pc's accross 2 floors
<6> about 50 in each room
<6> main server is NT 4.0
<5> bbs: re armor, ian says 'full tier 1, hardly noone in his raiding party has any tier 2 yet'
<6> Workstations are all mainly Windows 98
<5> j03; and you expect software to be able to map this? its just gonna show a subnet with a ****load of spokes
<6> I would say 300 are Windows 98
<6> The remaining 200 are Windoiws XP Pro
<5> run nmap from a linxu box, it will tell you that much in text format.
<6> but theres more check it
<9> there are nice win32 nmap frontends, too
<5> software can't tell your wiring is "in shambles" either.
<6> They are running there IP range on 10.0.0.1
<11> your nickname burns my hair folicles that grow in my eye
<5> so?
<5> cl***ic private subnet, we use dhtat at work
<6> 10.0.1.249
<5> my department is 10.5.160.0/20
<9> honestly you could just run nmap on the netblock, output to a text file, and parse it
<9> and this time that you're spending ****ing around could be used to get **** done
<6> and on the win 9x machines they keep getting hardware IP conflicts
<6> Its all routed via DHCP server
<5> so fix it. geezus.
<5> whine whine whine, do your stiff.
<6> but there are scattered mini ethernet 4 port switches portable hubs in every room
<5> if you're using DHCP, only way you'd get IP conflicts is if there are idiots with hard coded addresses that collide with DHCP space.
<6> the small linksys ones
<5> so get rid of that ****.
<14> win 9x machines
<14> heh
<5> rip out all the ****ed up wiring.
<14> the problem is in the question
<9> or he's misinterpreting the error message and some people are spoofing their MAC
<14> win 9x machines shouldn't even be on the lan
<14> or turned on for that matter
<14> anyone here have a Dell laptop? Can you send me C:\WINDOWS\Dell.bmp, I am collecting Dell wallpapers.
<6> and when you plug in another pc onto the network the link light go's out on the hub and another room will loose connectinty
<5> J03BL0GGS; there are wiring rules for ethernet, which preclude large messy networks with more than 2 tiers of switches
<5> you violate those and it WILL break.
<11> that's protected information1!1
<6> in the server cabinet there is like 500 pairs of wires NOT cut to length scattered in front of the rack mounted hubs, its hard to get access
<14> sartan, that is?
<6> but yer Hardware IP conflicts
<14> sartan, what is?


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