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<0> FKnight`: I'm out of weed too :( <1> half an hour later they notice all the laptops are gone <2> This week will not ****ing let up <3> our cleaning people have to have card keys to get into the office areas <2> and the ****ed up part is <1> so did this building. <2> I quit cigarettes Sunday <2> so this week has been especially annoying <2> so <2> 1) Quit smoking cigarettes <2> 2) Low on weed <1> so he probably had cutters in the bin and a stolen ID ot whatever <2> 3) Number 1 cause throat and lungs to clean up, resulting in: <1> got in got out wiht a bin full of thinkpads =) <2> 4) Me coughing out precious little weed smoke <4> whats a good way to scan my ports?
<3> nmap <3> from an outsided shell account <2> NAH MAN <2> USE SHIELDS UP <2> ! <3> ahahaahaha <2> by GRC <2> j/k :D <3> !info GRC <2> dude that vulnerability scanner steve gibson has. When it first came out, it wouldn't verify whether it was really your IP or not. <2> so you could portscan everyone <2> from grc.com <3> steve is such a twatbook <2> but see <4> hahaah <2> he knows how **** works <3> yeah, drum up a little fear, its good for business <2> well <2> he knows cryptography, networking, VPNs, software, programming <2> how could he be so smart yet so stupid at the same time <4> where do i scan my ip ? <3> hey, works for all those pricks in washington! <2> peerafk tre <2> *tre <3> Carlo__; from a shell account, using nmap, I told you <2> he was right about Raw S0cketz though <2> he <4> Peer no idea what you mean <2> he's making a big thing now cause 802.11 Ethernet doesn't have security. <2> e.g. anyone can spoof a dhcp server, do arp spoofing, etc. <2> and that's kinda true <5> im about to spoof some taco bell <2> You know what I don't get. "Authorizing" a DHCP server in Windows 2000/2003. <3> so he's gonna invevnt a better ethernet? snicker. <2> How do you keep a client from getting config from a rogue dhcp server? <5> it wont auth if its not part of the AD <5> domain <2> how does it know what's in the domain if it doesn't even have IP yet? <5> well thats a different funciton <2> If I'm a DHCP client, how do I know the DHCP server is authorized to service me if I'm just now getting my IP and DNS settings? <2> I can't check AD yet <5> well its either joined or it isnt <3> i ***ume the auth relates to the dhcp being able to register you in DNS <2> pardon me for paying attention to the OSI layer. ... <2> but I thought AD was somewhere around 4 and 5 <2> DHCP at 2 and 3 <5> but the client knows if its aprt of the domain prior to anything happening <2> right. <2> but we're authorizing the dhcp SERVER <2> what's to stop my Evil DHCP Server from pretending it's on the domain ? <2> especially to a printer <5> DHCP servers running Windows Server 2003 are verified as authorized in Active Directory before they can service clients. <6> it can't pretend. it needs an Administrator account in order to be joined TO the network. once it's connected then clients are checked against AD <2> What stops the DHCP server from not answering DISCOVER request? <6> damn you digi :) speed typist <5> if its not authorized against AD it wont service **** <2> ok, if I set up ISC bind <2> I mean ISC DHCP <5> you ahve to manually point the client there <2> my DHCP server can give two ****s whether it's authorized by a Windows server or not
<2> it's going to answer DISCOVER requests <5> ok but the thought is <5> how is the ISC server going to get on your network? <6> what does DISCOVER call and DOMAIN ACCESS have to do with each other? <5> you dont already have DHCP? <2> well isn't the point of "authorizing a DHCP server" contingent upon the possibility that someone might sneak one on the network? <2> pgpkeys: The more correct question is, what does domain access have to do with DHCP <5> but if a DHCP server that is already authed to AD <6> no, it's the other way around. <5> you can put as many rouge servers as you want on <5> it wont serve the clients <3> rogue <2> why won't it ? <5> because the windows XP machine knows to look first for the AD DHCP AUTH server <2> is ISC DHCP gonna ask the Windows server for permission to service clients? <5> there is a stepping process <2> oh okay <5> IF <5> it is part of the domain <2> so AD clients have special code in there to do all that **** <5> i dont know what happens if it is not <5> that is a good qustion <5> yes fk <2> so, printers and switches <5> different story <2> they're vulnerable to rogue dhcp servers <5> well not if they are already leased <5> the wont switch until the lease expires <2> or reserved <5> then its a fight <2> if I can own the switch <2> I can sniff the network <5> i can find a way to introduce a rouge http proxy server inside the lan as well <5> keep people with servers out of the front door :) <2> well yeah <2> dude <2> pretty soon <2> you can sneak a whole rogue network in on your keychain <5> haha <2> and you won't have to plug it in :D <2> hahahahahah <5> bluetooth hacked? <2> or ****ty wifi security on the lan :D <2> you could ARP spoof though too <2> and position between client and router <6> well to be honest, if systems and devices were infallible.. you wouldn't need admins or secteams :) <2> pgpkeys yeah <2> that's why we're here <2> heheh <6> i hope they neer find a way to eliminate every hole bug or problem. Lief would be so damn boring! And we'd be out paychecks <6> s/Lief/Life/g <2> some bugs are just stupid though. <2> I still can't save a VS.NET project to an IIS server without going via Frontpage <5> fk <5> visual web developer <5> 2005 <6> uhhh <6> FKnight`: dude, vs and vwd both support ftp <5> ftp ****s <6> true, but til i can integrate scp .. ;) <6> or sftp :) <5> i dont want it to that either <2> ok so I've been hearing all these crazy *** rumors that Microsoft is going to start to slowly put VB.NET out to pasture. <6> you prefer fp extensions?? <5> nope <5> i prefer SPS <2> or moving it more toward just VBA **** <5> so i can version control **** <6> FKnight`: heheh there'd be a lot of pissed off companies if they did that <6> digidog: ahh, I use VSS for that (though personally I prefer either cvs or svn) <7> how does youtube support itself, the bandwith etc <5> VSS is static.. well it WAS <5> in vs.net 2005 its dynamic <5> which rocks
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