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<0> you know, you can CHANGE THAT
<1> what do you mean?
<2> yeah, but it's pretty DUMB to have it as DEFAULT
<0> jez: why?
<2> because it's FUGLY
<0> in your opinion
<3> hehe
<0> you don't like it, you change it
<4> hahaha. http://www.despair.com/flattery.html
<5> jez: You should hear what it says about you.
<2> it's a theme
<0> if they made it boring battleship grey, some people might not know they could make it pretty
<6> mornings!
<0> so they pick a theme
<0> or a skin
<0> and they make it the default
<2> i wish it COULDNT be made 'pretty'
<2> i want it to look like a regular window
<2> darn.
<0> so make it look like a regular window
<2> that would also drastically improve performance
<2> yeah, but it wont actually BE one
<2> it'll be a load of wheel re-invention
<7> http://www.despair.com/effort.html
<2> because some prick in marketing wanted his baby to use WIMP
<8> burp
<5> jez: What the **** are you talking about?
<7> http://www.despair.com/inspiration.html hahaha
<0> the default media player skin apparently, or the fact that media player is skinned in the first place
<0> I'm not exactly sure
<2> hint: take a look at media player 6
<2> then realise that skins are evil
<5> jez: In your -- somewhat biliary -- opinion.
<5> I personally would rather spend my energy not complaining about things that, for the most part, don't matter for ****.
<5> Also, does WMP 11 still have mplayer2.exe?
<2> hey i bet you think MS did a great job on IE7 too, right?
<5> I haven't looked at IE7.
<5> I can't ****ing stand IE6 so I really don't much care about the IE7 betas.
<2> it's an uglified version of IE6 with about 2 minor CSS bugfixes
<5> jez: I'll form my own opinions on it when it gets released, but thanks for your valuable commentary on it.
<2> oh, and tabbed browsing
<2> MS invented tabbed browsing!!
<9> is the size on disk on a linux box usually 3-4x bigger than the actual size?
<5> jez: No they didn't.
<0> jez: no one at Microsoft has EVER claimed that they did
<1> Opera did
<0> this is the type of insane hatred of MIcrosoft that just makes me shake my head
<1> hehe
<2> also MS invented the GUI
<2> it's widely known fact
<1> heh
<5> emel: Actually, BookLink Technologies did it first.
<5> With InternetWorks.
<2> why else would Windows have a GUI?
<0> People WANTED tabbed browsing, people ASKED for tabbed browsing, Microsoft adds tabbed browsing, people bitchand whine that MS claims it invented tabbed browsing
<0> (which they never claimed)
<2> some people wanted MS to just bundle Firefox with XP :-P
<1> fdiv_bug: Thought Opera did, my bad
<0> they simply added a feature people asked for
<0> jez: why should Microsoft bundle a product from another company?
<5> emel: Opera released their MDI browser, but it didn't have tabs, just multiple windows.
<8> god damnit
<2> because they're a monopoly
<2> and it's not a company, it's a not-for-profit organisation
<0> should coke include a can of pepsi in every case in case someone doesn't like coke?
<8> email account that is listed on my resume is ****ed up
<5> csm: :(
<3> god resume
<3> i so need to fix my resume
<5> I applied to a university in Portland, OR.
<3> yeah ?
<3> lewis & clark ?
<3> u of oregon ?
<5> Pfft: No, Portland State.
<3> ahh
<5> UO and lclark aren't looking for Unix admins. :\
<5> PSU is, though.
<3> snaz
<5> And I wanna get out of the South.
<3> looking for a geographic change ?
<3> ahhh
<3> oregons cold and gloomy
<3> but beautiful wow
<5> Pfft: And culturally and socially progressive. :P
<3> yeah big time
<5> I can deal with weather.
<5> Just so long as there's art, culture, public transportation, as good a public education system as can be found in the States...
<10> HAHAHA
<11> :(
<10> i get jokes
<3> wow trying to grab a pdf admin guide for a mailfrontier box completely wedged safari
<3> feh
<5> Pfft: Safari ****s.
<3> yeah
<5> I cannot abide a browser that doesn't save my tab state when it crashes or I have to quit it.
<3> seems faster for me than firefox
<5> Pfft: Oh, it is fast.
<3> so i just keep on using it
<5> But that doesn't do me any ****ing good when it hangs.
<3> ya
<3> ok i'll begin my firefox acclimation program
<3> i usually only use FF when i need to do proxy switching/testing or .. when safari can't handle a page
<5> Pfft: Check out Opera, too. I've been using the 9.0 weekly builds.
<5> It's bloody ****ing fast.
<2> it's closed-source
<2> :-P
<3> ya i have it on here
<5> jez: So?
<5> It's a good product.
<3> i dont mind closed-source if its free
<3> :)
<3> but im not paying for a browser
<2> there's an OSS free alternative
<10> hey jez, you are close minded?
<0> I wish you could get Opera without the email client... yes yes, I know, don't use it, but I just don't like installing a browser and getting yet another email and news client
<5> Pfft: I don't mind closed source if it's priced well, and "free" qualifies. :)
<3> yeah
<5> jez: How many times have you hacked at Firefox's source?
<5> How many bugs have you fixed?
<2> quite a few
<3> im not a GPL waving communist nutbag :-)
<2> then i did admittedly delete it, as it is complex as hell
<10> Being close minded about closed source... isn't that *** back wards?
<5> jez: Well good for you.
<3> GPL is good.. free is good.. but they're not the end all be-all do-all
<5> Joe-0: Yeah, bigotry is bigotry. You ****in' whitey.
<12> nothing is truly free unless your time is worthless
<5> Pfft: Moderation is the key.
<3> so jez, you dont ever use closed source software?
<10> hehe
<2> in these days of DRM, i'd say OSS is the be-all end-all if you want a general purpose PC.
<2> :-S
<3> when there's an open source alternative ?
<8> dont be white man
<8> just dont
<11> Just shuddap.
<10> :(
<5> jez is about as practical in approaching the world of software as RMS.
<2> it's the only way to defeat digital DRM
<3> even if the open source alternative blows ?
<2> in this case it doesnt
<3> not really
<8> VU meters ****
<0> someone actually believes they can "defeat" DRM?
<10> pfft, you have to use open source to be 7eet
<10> erg
<8> PPM man PPM
<5> jez: Personally, I use software to accomplish things as easily and effectively as I can, not to uphold philosophical ideals.
<2> Jet: no, not defeat it. just ignore it.
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