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<0> no AI will have that
<1> zeelee: do you see anything wrong with preaching about social contact on an irc channel?
<1> zeelee: can common sense be taught?
<2> school is not the only mode of social contact for children
<0> feeling is different seeing
<1> i think it's outside of school where you learn common sense
<3> heh.
<1> common sense comes through experience
<0> no its learned
<1> learned, yes
<1> but taught?
<1> not everything learned is taught
<0> so how will machines help thee
<1> you have to find out most of the important stuff by yourself
<2> and not everything thats attempted to be taught is learned =/
<4> Ban zeelee.



<1> zeelee: i don't know, you're the one talking about them
<2> zeelee: how can they be worse?
<1> Badtzmaru: for sure
<2> all things considered.
<0> machines r good
<0> don't give them senses
<2> AI need not have senses exactly
<0> let do what we want them to
<2> and yu dont need AI to have a computer do the teaching
<1> right, look at televisions man
<1> they're teaching/babysitting most kids out there these days
<2> television is not interactive
<0> right
<1> and they don't use AI
<0> so
<2> if you just want your kid to sit and listen, Id not really call that learning
<1> Badtzmaru: have you been to school lately?
<2> verbose_: yes
<1> there are a lot of teachers who just sit up there and lecture
<2> exactly
<2> so tell me how the computer would be worse?
<1> i'm not arguing that
<0> the thing is guys the sense of touch is important
<1> zeelee: who has said it isn't
<2> zeelee: you are confusing source of learning with social interaction.
<0> little babies learn by touch
<1> but how is it important that a computer have it
<2> the 2 can (potentially) work together.
<0> no i'm not
<0> the point i'm driving at is
<0> we will reach a point when we r totally dependent on machines
<1> zeelee: will we really?
<1> how can you be so sure
<0> then u will know what great mistake we made
<1> will i really?
<0> yes u will
<1> how do you know all this?
<2> he saw terminator
<1> were you sent back in time from the future to prevent us from making a huge mistake?
<1> haha
<0> like when it starts making errors
<0> very funny
<1> omg, we can't have errors, we need the infallibility of a human being making decisions
<0> sure
<2> Haha
<2> now that is funny =)
<5> is it worth buying one of those high end monster dvi/hdmi cables? I bought a cheapy from radioshack...it looks sharp for the most part but i sometimes get weird green artifacts and lines
<2> it would be funny when the machines decided to do something about the fact that we are our own worst enemy though
<1> trev0r: not usually
<1> haha, yes
<0> i robot
<1> zeelee is a self admitted robot
<1> KILL HIM
<1> HE'LL RUIN THE FUTURE
<0> lets start to look at this closely friends
<2> zeelee: there is nothing to look at closely at the moment
<0> rem its our kids ho will be face with the music
<2> as what you are talking about (in the firm of AI) does not exist
<1> Badtzmaru: that's what _they_ want you to think
<0> there is bad



<2> exmple?
<1> this is hilarious
<0> what would u do if u told a machine to bathe your kid
<0> and it drowns it
<1> zeelee: i'd look at you funny, cause the machine isn't going to answer
<2> I mean, we cant even build a computer and program it well enough to beat a human consistantly at chess yet
<2> Im not that worried
<1> what drowns what? do you have such a machine?
<0> mistakenly
<1> Badtzmaru: worry, apparently zeelee has built a baby-killing bathtub machine
<0> we will have one soon the way we r going
<1> maybe we should report him to someone
<1> sounds kind of dangerous
<0> funny
<1> zeelee: you really don't know what you're talking about
<0> ok
<0> i don't but watch out
<1> you're probably one of those idiots who spent their life savings building bomb shelters and stocking up on canned goods and guns before y2k
<2> Im still waiting for an actual example
<1> zeelee: ok, i'm watching out
<1> if you see you in real life i will definitely not let you tell a machine to wash my baby and then drown it
<2> verbose_: I have one of those.
<0> no u won't be
<2> I keep my "girlfirends" down there.
<1> Badtzmaru: haha
<1> it puts the lotion in the basket
<0> then i hope we have machines for judges
<6> http://www.weakgame.com/data/Videos/20060312_007_girlsgirlsgirlswmv?db713fb578ebeafe786583fd0a0d0c15
<2> actually
<2> just have machines for cops
<2> and cut out the middle man
<6> http://www.fuzzandzapper.com/uploaded_images/swordholder.jpg
<2> "guilty? shoot him"
<2> save lots of time and trouble.
<7> stopthat
<0> no lets have a machine judge
<6> http://www.youtube.com/player.swf?video_id=4uzN0NGmRDI&l=3&s=984D779A3F34F191:8A51374783A7BCE6 <- what a dumb ****
<7> her vagina is not where they store excalibur
<0> so we don't have to leave our beds
<0> right
<1> zeelee: i think you've lost this argument and it's time to give up
<0> no i haven't
<1> go drown a baby or something
<0> would u
<1> zeelee: ok, well when the machines start drowning my baby i will apologize
<0> man u r crazy
<1> there's no sense in continuing this though seeing how AI isn't even out there yet!!!
<1> zeelee: baby killer
<0> i tellu what u do
<0> u'llget a pipe and break it then
<0> u look for the maker
<0> and shoot him
<1> with a pipe?
<1> what kind of pipes are we going to have in the future?
<0> verbose it be here sooner than u think
<1> oh, and then our pipes will be able to shoot people?
<1> that sounds really really useful
<0> pipes u get a gun
<0> its amachine too
<1> a pipes u get a gun?
<0> for killing
<2> thats a rather broad coparison.
<2> comparison even
<1> people are a lot deadlier than guns
<1> i'm not saying guns don't kill people
<1> but people kill a lot more people than guns do
<2> guns dont kill people
<4> Ban zeelee.
<2> people who shoot guns at people kill people
<1> Badtzmaru: well, they sure help a lot
<0> u will go buy a gun look for baby killing machine creator and shoot him
<1> zeelee: you're the only one around here killing babies
<0> it was only an example


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