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<0> Singer moved out of town.
<0> No more band.
<1> bummer
<0> I live in an apartment.
<0> It's all samotr0n's fault.
<0> It good didib0rg.
<1> danke
<0> I love your mixes.
<1> danke again
<0> No stupid newb **** like drums in the back.
<1> thats what 40K worth of **** gets you
<0> And a brain.
<1> time
<1> been doing home studio stuff for ****ing ever
<0> Shiiite Dude. I miss my 2x speed Fostex c***ette 4-track.
<0> That thing sounded pretty good. Was $800 new.



<1> i had one
<1> actually i had several
<1> used to link em up
<0> High speed tape is da bomb.
<1> i also had a highspeed 8 track c***ette
<0> Nice.
<1> tascam
<0> I miss my guitar. I think I'll get another to make up for the no drums.
<0> Right samotr0n?
<2> unF
<0> Right.
<3> is this windows?
<0> No.
<0> Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?
<3> ok
<0> Your mom is Windows.
<3> heh
<3> does anyone know of anyway to prevent windows shutting off because of "nt authority shudown 60 secs"?
<3> shutdown -a , does not work and i cannot remove virus
<0> shutdown -r now
<3> ill try that, i need time enough to get some antivirus program installed
<4> hey guys is there any reason why msnmsgr.exe would try to establish a 139 port connections to various pc's in my lan.
<4> its a fresh install
<4> and nav 10 ent is installed
<3> it still reboots, maybe i can find an anti-virus boot cd,
<3> safe mode is no good either, it still reboots
<4> thompa i would download ERD commander and check for spyware and viruses.
<4> grab the 2006 version it has AVG with the latest updates/definitions and spybot
<3> i think its the s***er worm, this laptops anti-virus was last running in 2002
<4> lol grab the ERD commander cd and wipe it clean.
<3> will it run at boot?
<3> ok
<4> ofcourse ever use it?
<3> thanks
<4> np
<3> oh i recognize the name,
<4> so back to msnmesgr.exe anyone know why this "messanger" trys to connect to lan clients for no reason? after a fresh install
<4> netstat never lies!!!
<4> comon anyone with any ideas
<1> ?
<1> tries to connect to lan clients?
<5> because that's what messenger does
<5> don't like it get a mac i guess???
<4> yup i was curious as to why my connections monitor was showing me taping lan clients smb ports on opening msn 7.
<1> you're asking why it is scanning your subnet?
<4> no it clearly connects to diffrent lan client ip's i have every once in a while and trys to connect to there smb ports.
<4> espcialy when i login after reboot.
<1> why wouldnt it?
<4> lol its msn messanger why would it?
<4> msn messanger should only connect to msn servers not lan smb ports
<1> no
<4> oh o.k so whats the reason then?
<1> it can connect to a local LC server or directly to other clients
<4> cuz no where on technet does it explain this.
<4> LC server?
<1> live communications
<4> well see my machine is the only one with msn on it.
<4> the rest is a cluster of 2003 servers
<4> and i'm the client for that lan.
<1> well it keeps queries open to other local systems



<4> o.k WHY?
<4> just doesn't make sense
<1> for the reasons i posted earlier
<4> but i have no other msn clients on the subnet and no LC server
<4> i think it be best if i just switched msn clients to something a bit more secure.
<1> but its always looking
<1> secure?
<1> are you sending senstive data over messenger?
<4> yeah a client that doesn't fish for open ports. :/
<1> huh?
<4> ofcourse not but i don't trust a app that randomly fishes open lan ports
<1> how is it random?
<4> beacuse i'd be just watching csi or reading a webpage and i'm not even chatting on msn and then i see a msnmsgr.exe local port 1133 192.168.0.5 139 established pop up.
<1> microsoft doesnt care about you, they don't want your messenger info
<1> and messenger is built into all windows XP systems
<4> no no messanger.exe is in all xp systems...... not msnmsgr.exe thats msn messanger 7.0 i installed from microsoft.com.
<4> and i don't care much for my msn info.. its just why is the application randomly connecting to lan smb ports.
<4> thats my question :/
<1> msnmsgr.exe is bundled with windows
<1> you can disable it if you want
<4> lol dude messanger.exe is bundled with windows not msnmsgr.exe
<1> partially true
<4> umm no its completely true. i know cuz i make install scripts and i always take that one out.
<4> no point of haveing two diffrent messanger clients
<4> anyway
<4> thats not the point.
<4> point is a fresh install with fresh msn messanger 7.0 install and the ****er is connecting to randome machines on there smb ports.
<1> take what out?
<1> i already told you why
<1> i dont understand your concern
<4> umm no you don't understand what i'm explainging.
<1> many communications apps scan the local subnet for like instances
<4> o.k i have installed a communication app that is msn messanger 7.0 a internet based application not LAn based.
<1> doesnt matter
<1> it is lan based
<1> it works on both fronts
<4> that makes no sence
<1> and thus has routines to support both
<1> well i cant help that
<4> first of all msn messanger doesn't work on lan's
<4> it needs the internet to log on.
<1> if you dont like it for whatever black hellicopter reason, disable it
<1> no it doesnt
<0> :(
<4> yes it does it's even listed on the msn messanger website
<4> wtf?
<6> heh
<1> stick an LC server in your network, see if you can log in
<0> SFTU Sith.
<6> lic some sack :)
<1> here..
<6> [:)
<1> this is why it is doing what it is doing
<1> its called presense
<0> Yummy.
<1> msn messenger uses traffic to detect presence with many other ms apps
<1> including office
<1> word, etc
<1> on the local subnet
<1> uses/sends-receives
<4> are you sure your not talking about msn messanger Enterprise?
<1> no
<1> the routines are common to all messenger services aft 2002 or so
<4> heh.
<4> technet here i come brb to conferm that.
<1> confirm all you want.. i dont understand your goal
<1> regardless if you believe me or not, what are you going to do?
<1> uninstall the thing
<1> and disable the core
<4> probably
<1> i still dont get the concern
<1> are you concerned microsoft is scanning your systems for porn or unauth software?
<1> if so, you need to re-read their privacy policy


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