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<0> Joe, well the only way you'll ever really know is if she tells you.
<1> Smurfing; what protocol?
<2> tcp/ip
<0> Since last time I checked, humans can't read minds.
<3> so you say ask?
<3> true true
<1> actually getting 100% utilization from ethernet isn't trivial.
<4> no
<1> what APPLICATION protocol ?
<3> cHiKNPad, why not?
<1> FTP ?
<2> FTP
<1> file sharing?
<1> what FTP server?
<1> so you're getting 5Mbyte/sec ?
<5> there are a lot of things that can impact performance, the card is usually not one of them.
<2> Not sure, I've tried FTP and SAMBA to a FreeBSD server on the same LAN
<3> i mean, **** if she is... **** if she isn't at least this way i can move on and quit waisting my time
<5> are you familiar with sysctl -A | grep space?
<4> did you kiss her yet?
<5> consider fixing your TCP stack.
<3> no
<2> lol
<3> if I had kissed her I would know if she were interested
<2> I'm not a microsoft programmer
<1> I usually see ~ 80Mbit/sec (8Mbyte/sec) on 100baseT
<4> i would suggest kissing her before you aske her
<5> you just said FreeBSD
<1> on FTP. SMB file sharing is considerably slower.
<5> GOD DAMN the world is full of idiots. more so than I am.
<3> cHiKNPad... while I see the logic... i don't know heh
<2> amonfils: I said TO a FreeBSD server, I didn't say between FreeBSD servers
<6> Anyone know why my screensaver wont start in windows xp pro sp2?
<5> does not matter.
<4> actualy asking her as you are kissing her might be best
<3> i dont know though
<5> the default freebsd tcp stack is not optimally tuned which can impact your perforamnce.
<5> geezus ****.
<5> as is the windows stack. tuned for a T1.
<5> 17k TCP window represent.
<7> Do you have to use Aero Gl*** in Windows Vista to have a resolution independent user interface?
<4> and if she says no i dont like you but keeps kissing you then you know you got DA HO BABY
<2> amonfils: are you suggesting the FreeBSD TCp/Ip stack is inferior to the windows one?
<0> !info vista
<5> no of course not.
<8> he meant what he said
<6> hmm
<5> i am saying that neither stack is necessarily optimally tuned OUT OF THE BOX
<5> kekeke
<8> reading is fundamental, what did he say
<5> ROFFLE
<3> **** it
<5> CAKES
<3> im asking
<9> so does it really matter if I burn dvd-r or dvd+r discs?
<4> dont as kiss
<3> done
<1> if the QOS thing is enabled in XP, about 20% of the network bandwidth is reserved for QOS traffic. since noone actually USES that, disabling QOS can net you a few more megabits
<9> who gives a ****, really?
<3> sorry cHiKNPad, I went with the gay guy
<9> i'm not worried about standlone player compatibility
<9> so I can just not worry, right?
<6> I guess no one knows?
<2> so is 50mbps reasonable for a 100mbps NIC on an "unoptimally tuned" card out of the box?
<1> nerpp: some players like one or the other, otherwise it don't matter. DVD+R tends to be a bit faster (faster blanks more readily available)
<8> nope.
<1> Smurfing; how are you measuring this?
<5> I AM COUNTING THE BITS
<5> I HAVE AN LED I COUNT
<8> Smurfing: and for what application?
<5> DIVIDE BLINKS BY TIME TRANSFER TAKES
<8> or app protocol
<5> AND EXTRAPOLATE FROM THERE!
<5> kekekeke
<5> i'm getting del.erio.us
<1> ethernet has 10-20% protocol overhead, so I usually figure 10 bits/byte instead of the nominal 8.
<5> del.iri.us
<3> !info Joe-7
<3> !info Joe-7)
<2> Several ways. 1) ctrl alt del.... network
<1> so 100Bbit/sec is peak 10Mbyte/sec.
<3> !infomod Joe-7 Joe-7? Oh yeah that guy... he is a loser.
<8> Smurfing: is this via crossover?
<3> !infounlock Joe-7
<2> 2. leapware, download a file via FTP, watch the kbps
<3> !infomod Joe-7 Joe-7? Oh yeah that guy... he is a loser.
<1> Smurfing; xfer a large file, take the megabytes/sec (time file transfer, divide by size), and multiply by 10 to get bits/sec
<3> !info Joe-7
<5> 100mbit/sec mathematically is 12.5MByte/sec
<5> technically.
<1> amonfils; only if there's 0 bits of protocol and sync overhead.
<8> cause you might just have a crappy switch
<1> tcp over ethernet is around 20% total overhead
<5> note the 'mathematically' portion peerce
<5> if you factor in protocol and shiite
<1> nothing mathematical about it.
<5> it goes down hill fast.
<5> i was doing pure bits to bytes sans protocol.
<5> add protocol decrease available bandwidth accordingly.
<5> etc. etc.
<2> What if I were using a cheap switch, could that be why I'm getting around half what I expect?
<1> 6-8Mbyte/sec is about peak I see on 100baseT for simple TCP transfers like FTP, RCP, SCP, etc.
<8> crap switch could be a factor, yes
<10> 100 doesn't mean a full 100
<1> SMURF: WHAT ARE YOU MEASURING?
<5> i have iperf doing 90Mbs between cisco switches across a metro ethernet.
<10> tcp/ip overhead, etc
<5> *shrug
<5> grown people talking alatar, hush up now.
<10> uh-huh
<11> hey all.. I just purchased OfficeXP Pro on e-bay, and I want to make SURE that this copy has not been activated. Is there an easy way (aside from activation itself) that I can tell whether a product has been used/activated already?
<1> LordX; was it in a sealed retail package?
<8> LordX: till you have package in hand and know it hasnt been opened, no
<12> idiots
<1> most software sold on ebay is counterfeit
<11> m asking
<2> peerce: throughput
<11> lol its a REAL disk
<1> Smurfing; thats a word. HOW ARE YOU MEASURING THIS? WHAT ARE YOUR NUMBERS ?
<11> but been opened.... which is why I am asking
<12> see you guys from the atl
<1> LordX; they make those in china, holograms and all.
<2> Peerce: wait a minute and let me give you a specific example...
<11> its a DELL stamped thingy
<11> and I beleive the source on the fact that its not copied
<1> LordX; thats only licensed for use on the Dell computer it was sold with. the license is nontransferable.
<11> BUT
<1> did you buy the dell computer?
<13> LordX: then its probably not legit anyway
<11> yes, but I upgraded it too
<13> those things almost always say "not for resale"
<1> Smurfing; just give me the megaBYTE/second you're seeing on FTP file transfers.
<11> and I heard that the origional activation is based on the hardware in the comp
<1> if you bought a dell computer on ebay that came with dell branded software, that software is legit to use on that computer.
<1> and yes, it probably WAS activated on that computer.
<11> yes
<11> SO
<11> if I changed the Hardware, which is what the activation is BASED on, what can I do?
<8> the EULA explains that
<1> what do you mean, 'changed the hardware'? you got a whole new system? its not transferable, read the EULA.
<8> at worst you call up MS and say "Hi, I upgrded my machine"
<3> hmm
<3> she took it better than I thought
<8> but realistically most people will never have that problem
<3> odd
<3> being up front with people is sometimes good
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