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<0> pizza_biz; yeah, but I bet you spend a bit more than $1000 on the parts for a complete system, eh?
<1> i was looking at dell and wondering if they have good machines
<0> they are good machines if you want them to A) work out of the box B) have a good warranty and C) aren't going to be doing extensive aftermarket upgrading of their innards.
<2> not much more. i think i spent about $1100 to build my last machine. all quality components, of course.
<3> Wow. I've got a magic visa card. The more I charge, the more SOMEBODY replaces that money. Or may they just haven't posted it all. Nah, that's a dream.
<0> for instance, if you get some low end Dell, then try and stuff a high end PCI-E video card in it, you'll probably have power supply and thermal problems.
<4> i've got 3-4 grand $CDN to blow on a gaming rig.
<4> i have a lot of bucks in a savings account that i was holding just in case i was unemployed.
<4> now i get to use it!
<5> $4k for a gaming rig? does that include a HD tv?
<4> yeah
<4> actually.
<4> 2x 20" LCDs!
<4> dual cpus.
<4> dual video
<4> boat loads of storage
<3> Alexi5: www.pixelusa.com looks promising.
<1> so i guess Dell ****s?
<5> get 1 big tv.
<6> sartan, can i have $1k ?
<4> no =(
<4> i already have a big tv
<4> but i wouldn't mind replacing it
<4> only problem is i don't know where to put the old oen
<0> Alexi5; I didn't say that, did I ?
<6> sartan, in a box bound for SF ?
<4> labelled 'not drug money'
<2> dell is for people who need simple packages that don't need to be extended and those who can make well-informed decisions about what their needs are.
<0> most importantly (to me, anyways) dells generally have good warranties unless you go really cheap.
<0> I usually get the 3 year next day
<4> warranty your dell.
<3> Unfortunately, most people don't factor in the cost of gold support, and it is cheap (about $250 over base). It's not bad, it's just people's expectations take a huge header when they realize how much gold help really costs.
<1> i have a system that has the p4 478 and and agp
<3> isn't cheap.
<2> **** gold help. that's what IRC and #windows is for! :-P
<4> -wwjd.
<0> Alexi5; but, seriously, Antigua? thats gonna put a serious crimp on your budget.
<2> who would jesus do?
<7> I went to taco bell to get one soft taco, right?
<4> mary.
<4> jesus had a *** life.
<7> they gave me a 1/2 lb beef burritto and 4 beef soft tacos
<0> I'd imagine even Dell charges a large premium for shipping and warranty there.
<7> and charged me for one
<7> I ate everything
<2> pig.
<1> i ordered from dell before but that was a laptop
<2> anyway. home!
<4> I have a dell laptop.
<7> hey, i need the protien and energy
<1> and it was quite cheap
<7> I
<4> it's had the motherboard and ahrd drive fail.
<7> I'm building muscle. :D
<4> Warranty > *
<0> Ted-Lap; i asked before, dunno fi you saw it.... did you see this review of the new beemer F800 vertical twin ? http://www.motorcycledaily.com/04april06_bmw_f800st.htm
<2> you're building a huge dump.
<7> my inspiron hsa been through hell and back and it has kept up like a champ
<7> naw, I already built that.
<7> then I destroyed it with a flush
<7> now I'm hungry again
<2> you're building another one.
<8> OK, i have an asp.net page that I need to allow an sql username to write back to (least as I can tell). I need to A) find out on a single webpage redirect what user it's trying to access as and B) if it's not a windows user (aka NTLM) how I would allow that user to modify an aspx page.
<7> my appetite is outrageous latley
<7> anyway, off to a ****ing meeting. :(
<1> i see most top end graphics cards are using PCI-E and the new processors are the 775 pins
<2> yeah so like. home.
<8> I was looking at FileAuthorizationModule but that's for the filesystem it appears
<5> I'm on my second personal dell laptop. very happy
<3> You know the big problem with Dell, it's that the boxes are too small. They can only fit uATX motherboards unless you look more closely, The 9150 is a full ATX board and that is compensated by a higher price.
<0> pgpkeys; somehow, the thought of allowing a webpage to modify a webpage sounds, um, wrong to me. build your dynamic pages from database content or something, instead.
<1> so the 9150 is a good deal?
<0> Tomomi; yer supposed to use the motherboard thats in the system, not replace it.
<8> peerce: basicly what's happening is if a user fails to authenticate (which IS stored in a db) we're trying to get the page modified so it states (after auth fails) that auth did in fact fail
<0> if you want a tinker-toy computer, then by all means, buy whitebox parts.
<8> rather than giving an error 500
<8> it's a permissions thing, as it says Access_Is_Denied in the logfile, but doesn't say who the user is, or where the permissions is being denied
<0> pgpkeys; oh, just output the error message in HTML from a ASP page, then. don't modify a page.
<1> peerce:do you feel the 9150 is a good system to get and make future upgrades on?
<0> Alexi5; no idea, never seen one.
<0> if you want a tinker toy computer that you'll be replacing piecemeal, I suggest you go whitebox.
<9> yay here i am
<3> I don't know good or bad. Use your own intelligence. Do you need or think you will need a 9150 -- will only 3pci slots work? No, does your future only 3 workable drive? No, then you need an ATX.
<0> Alexi5; aren't there any 'clone' stores in Antigua that build custom systems to order ?
<1> they are much more expensive than dell?
<8> peerce: well with asp.net you're supposed to be able to use the events to change things. such as If Not User = "bla" { Label1.Text = "Login Failure"; }
<8> (yeah I know not exact code but the idea is present) :-)
<1> i mostly need the system to design web based applications and play some 3d games when i am tired
<3> I just bought a celeron 1.7 -- I don't know WHAT I was thinking. Building an upper tier linux box.
<8> hehe more than enough for linux. hell I run *windows 2003 server* on a celeron 700
<8> works pretty damn good
<3> cpu, psu,heatsink -- everything but the motherboard.
<8> linux doesn't have *anywhere* need the requirements of windows.
<0> pgpkeys; ok, but thats not changing the files.
<1> it seems no one here agrees that dell has good systems that are upgradeable
<0> Alexi5; 'good' is defined by your requirements, its purely subjective.
<8> peerce: ok then i said it wrong.
<8> that's what it's doing (as i explained it) but I'm getting permission denied errors
<5> if you want total upgradability including motherboards, build your own
<8> really need to know how to track down who it thinks the user is and what exactly is being denied
<3> Shuttling a vnc connection over 100baseTX to a window on windows is far from handling a smooth xserver (free) on is difficult.
<0> of course, building your own means taking your own responsibility for fixing it, debugging it when it doesn't work right.
<0> whihc is the service your local computer store would provide, thats why they are more expensive.
<0> and if you hook up this $1000 box of parts and it just sits their cold, what are you going to do?
<8> hehe i don't know too many local computer stores that know how to manage or repair linux machines
<0> shipping from Antigua is gonna get expensive.
<0> pgpkeys; most of the good ones around here do.
<0> they sell LOTS of linux and BSD servers
<8> you must be in Cali
<0> actually.... yeah :D
<8> hehe
<1> i decide to go to dell becuase they are cheap and i don't have to pay duty on importing a PC into Antigua,but i do have to pay duty if i am importing parts
<0> how do you not have to pay a duty ?
<3> A few days ago, my backup server took a hitter, I repeated creating the array, and what do you know, the data is still there. Somehow, through the aid of RAID5, somehow, it preserved the data.
<0> dell is exempt?
<1> dovernment removed duty on all pcs
<0> but not on components?
<1> all i have to pay is the customs handling tax
<1> all personal PCs
<0> so they penalize the local computer industry?
<1> duty is still on for componenets
<1> in a way i guess they do?
<0> nice.
<1> but from how things look
<1> dell is my only option
<0> so if you want to buy locally built, you pay a huge premium.
<0> nah, there's plenty of other system vendors
<3> Well this is cool. I had enough money in the bank to pay my entire amount for the month, ahead of time. That reminds me, gotta pay qwest. peace.
<1> peerce:do they have have good prices
<1> and do they ship to antigua
<3> Alexi5: www.resellerratings.com newegg roolz.
<1> newgg doesn't ship internationally
<0> I dunno, but you might be better off taking a weekend flight to miami or somewhere, finding a shop that custom builds, get what you want built there, and shipped home as a 'system'.
<10> custom build shwere
<10> which one
<0> of course, that would probably cost just about as much as a locally built system
<10> monarchcomputers.com is a good builder
<10> I price watched them out a while back
<10> they did a good job for me
<10> I think it is www.monarchcomputers.com
<1> and the local computer stores don't even sell athlon 64 dual core systems
<10> hmm I have been mulling over upgrading to a dual core
<10> I have an AMD FX55 now
<11> no
<10> nice nick
<10> heh
<10> no what
<1> the Athlon FX are great
<10> yeah I love mine
<1> the computer i have presently i built it myself
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