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<0> you clearly need beer
<0> asap
<1> peerce time returns the time but not with the seconds
<1> i specifically need seconds
<2> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/script56/html/3eb7a72b-f6bd-4d2f-8e5b-feca09d8a8ef.asp
<3> anyone know how to prevent certain applications (i.e. msn messenger) from being installed on a windows xp box? is there some kind of policy setting?
<2> in VBscript? time should be fractional precision
<0> yeah
<1> werd
<0> it's called make the ****ing user a regular user
<1> thanks
<0> instead of an admin
<3> Gimp-Work that isn't feasible i need another solution
<4> good iea
<0> why is it not feasible
<3> and i know that already, being an MCSE



<3> because they have applications that require local admin rights
<0> being an MCSE you should know all about policies
<0> really? what application
<3> Act and Sage
<4> how about just telling them not to install messenger?
<0> well you're in luck, i'm an ACC
<5> uhoh
<0> what version of act
<5> You just ****ed up.
<5> Now you got Gimp on the case.
<3> you know, dont worry, ill code something to do it
<4> or
<5> EHEHEHEHEHEH
<0> psyhead, act runs fine not as a local admin
<4> letting them install messenger but blocking the messenger port on the router?
<5> Listen to this schoolyard ****.
<5> "I'll just code something"
<6> digiwork try starting here. http://directory.microsoft.com/mprd/search.aspx
<5> Mother****er if you knew how to code ****all you wouldn't be on IRC asking a bunch of rando jerky***es for help.
<0> do you use act 6.x or 2005/2006?
<3> lol shush you child
<4> psyhead, why not just block the port?
<5> Child? HARDLY. I'll be 14 in three weeks.
<5> I don't have to go to bed until Sanford & Son is over.
<5> I use binary hashes to keep **** like that off my machines.
<5> You could use policies too though.
<5> Actually the hashes ARE part of a policy.
<7> coulda just told the guy that?
<0> or he could just not make them admins
<8> recommendations for pocket pc's?
<5> Oh. I didn't know he left.
<0> which is ***loads easier
<4> some programs need admin access
<4> such as AutoCad
<0> funny how he ran away after i told him i was an act consultant :/
<4> it will crash if you dont have it
<9> nice job skoal
<5> Wrong again.
<0> they don't require it
<5> They do not require local admin access.
<0> they require permissions to specific keys
<2> revcane; yeah, confirmed. WScript.Echo Time displays 12:44:30 PM
<5> Lazy admins never bother to find out how to make them work without it.
<0> exactlly
<5> If those lame ****ers knew how to use filemon and regmon, they could just modify ACLs most of the time.
<7> well the next time someone asks a question, I'll shove this point iron rod pu their bums
<0> figures the one person with an act question runs away tho
<8> recommendations for pocket pc's?
<6> brutal
<4> well, for people who are making 6 digits, i dont think it's worth their while to investigate for a few hours to see what exactly to allow
<10> sup
<4> when they have more important matters to attend to
<7> like trying to stop msn from installing?
<7> damn.... blocking the ports is the easiest thing ever
<6> they get paid 6 digits TO investigate.
<2> triumph; if the users are admins they can circumvent almost any restriction you apply. so WTF?
<0> they can remove any restriction actually
<0> if they are smart enough
<4> only on the local machine
<5> circumvrerent.
<4> it's not like they're going to super hack the network



<0> *shrug*
<4> lol
<0> it the ones that **** around that cause the most damage
<2> you want to prevent them from installing unauthorized software, if they can become local admin, they can install anything they want.
<7> those are the ones you let go Gimp
<4> well, it comes down to the fact if you have local admin, u want to mess around and get nabbed
<2> btw, you don't set it up so you can't install X and Y, you set it up so they can ONLY install A, B, and C.
<4> let me show you the door
<2> fine. MSN Messenger -> DOOR.
<2> there ya go!
<2> problem solved.
<7> boom.
<7> give them all the ights they want
<4> i mean, all those computers have remote viewers on them anyways
<7> they **** around you clean off their desk.
<4> and you can see what they have in their registry remotely
<0> a99, great
<0> so then you lose all the money you spent training them
<4> if you're using messenger, it's not anyone is not going to see
<0> and now you have to spend more money finding someone new
<0> and training them
<4> they're going to bitch and complain, that's how the workforce is, if you have anything to complain about, they do it
<0> triumph, if you have 10 computers, poking in their reg is fine
<0> what if you have 200?
<4> well, only 1 or 2 has admin access
<7> higher a full time reg poker?
<0> it's FAR easier to make them normal users
<0> and then certify each app on a test box, then roll it out
<4> like me for example, working in a corp, i had admin access to my machine cuz i required full editing rights in autocad
<0> so you know what registry changes you need ahead of time, and can apply them via whatever your fav mechanism is
<0> triumph, so your admin was lazy
<4> easier said than done
<4> it groups are generally very small
<0> act 6.x works as a normal user, except for mail merge, you need to adjust one directory permission and two reg perms, and it works
<7> you could always higher moniters? a couple moniters to just moniter the network
<7> all day
<0> heh
<7> heck a highschool kid would do it for 8 bucks an hour
<2> outsource the drafting department and make it someone ELSES problem
<2> while you're at it, outsource IT
<7> lol
<4> lol they did
<7> outsource the whole fking company, and just collect theprofits
<4> it's easy just to say, just do this and that, everything ties together
<4> which makes it difficult, i was an admin for a while at this other company
<0> it's not difficult
<4> and one move changes everything
<7> I wonder since you guys are mostly in IT, how do you feel of alot of your jobs being sent to India?
<0> how often do you add a new piece of software
<4> i dont mind, i dont it on the side
<4> my major is electrical eng
<4> well at the time, i was changing softare on a bi-weekly basis
<4> we were constantly upgrading
<0> patching or changing actual applications
<4> changing
<0> why?
<4> they were in a develop stage reamping the system
<11> someone was short with me and i found myself really hurt
<0> oh, so your it department was stupid
<4> why?
<12> is there a tool that could run a noice reduction on my video from my video cam?
<13> wouldnt it hurt more if they were long with you?
<0> because you had to learn new software every week?
<4> cuz we were getting updated software?
<14> a99: My job isn't going /anywhere/.
<4> like i said, we were just in the process of updating
<14> Major private universities aren't big on outsourcing their IT.
<4> that's why there were so many changes
<7> as in, its a very specific job that can't be outsoruced, or as in it ****s and its not going "anywhere"
<2> Lars_; most video editing programs have stuff like that, but video noise reduction tends to smush the video too. modern video cameras, even $300 camcorders, tend to be remarkably noise free.
<14> a99: I'm a sysadmin for a large private school. I and all of my coworkers are going to be staying in-house for quite some time.
<0> MarEakin, did someone call you a ****tard?
<12> peerce, well my canon mv650i has some noice from the tapedrive that tends to make a avfull lot of noice when it's no sound
<0> or did they just make fun of your moobs


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