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<0> little girls being denied parole
<1> Tropic-Li do you have an ac3 filter installed?
<2> at least the ones in this box do
<2> !google ac3filter sourceforge
<1> yeah cody, that was a mangle. :( i'm feeling crap
<1> !google ac3filter
<3> http://ac3filter.sourceforge.net/
<4> peerce: 192.168.1 is bridged on my router with 192.168.2 so each can access each other.
<1> hahah gimp you read my mind
<2> yeah go there
<1> that's exactly that.
<2> stupid bot
<5> GenNMX; that would be 'routed' not 'bridged'.
<1> why AC3 capability is still got a fortress around it in windows is beyond me
<2> *shrug*
<0> home networking is still done in a stupid way imo
<1> they advertise the multimedia capabilites yet wmp can't play a ****ing DVD with sound
<1> laaaame
<0> nerp: Totally.
<1> MS should just eat the bullet and supply windows with an ac3 filter
<2> it's like a ****ing call center in here today
<1> yeah we're busy
<1> hjeh
<5> AC3 requires royalties to Dolby for ever copy.
<6> how come WinDVR 3 doesn't allow me to select my onboard sound card for audio?
<5> every.
<2> because the drivers are ****ed up
<0> peerce: I'm sure something could be worked out
<2> or don't support direct sound
<1> yeah i know peerce. freakin dolby. you'd think they'd work a deal with ms though.
<0> common
<1> one time big lump payment, boom done.
<6> the problem is WinDVR
<0> peerce, you're always mr. 'it can't be done because...'
<0> Sure it can, they just need to stop being stupid :D
<2> i've always captured using virtualdub
<2> if peerce could google it for me :P
<2> or nerpy
<1> likewise.
<0> my car is rollin' on virtualdubs
<2> virtualdub.sourceforge.net iirc
<2> yeah i'm right
<0> wow
<0> and then there were 1
<5> Cody`: I didn't say 'can't', I just gave a rationale why its the way it is. MS doesn't supply DVD decrypting either, because of the royalties. probably fewer than 1/2 XP users would ever play a DVD on their computer, so why should we all pay for software we don't use?
<6> i can always switch my input to Line In, then un-mute it for sound output
<0> looks like I might become our only o/g guy
<2> og?
<6> but that means i won't be able to record/rewind
<6> stupid win dvr...
<6> is there any better windows DVR program?
<5> Tropic-Ll; what options DOES windvr have for sound input?
<1> well I just chugged half a bottel of dayquil
<1> i feel great all of a sudden
<0> 1/2 of XP users don't use MS Paint, or calc, or that Spider game, or defrag, or "Accessabillity" options, etc. etc. etc. We all pay for their dev as part of Windows
<6> NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio
<0> You'd think addign the ability to play DVDs, which seems "no duh", would be at the top of the list.
<5> Cody`; but there's no cash payout. MS is greedy, they don't wanna pay royalties. can you blame them> would you?
<6> and my USB mic
<1> I would.
<0> Yeah, I'll blame them. I think it's a stupid move on their part
<5> Tropic-Ll; ok, nforce audio is your sound card. use it.
<1> to complete my product
<6> but i just noticed that my Master Volume thing has a nvidia audio icon
<6> ok
<6> i'll try
<0> A stupid BUSINESS move at that
<2> no
<6> i think you're right
<2> windows can play dvds
<2> if you buy MCE
<1> windows is promoted as a multimedia OS. For the average user who pops a DVD into their new, $1,500 computer with big LCD screen and 5.1 speakers, no explanation about dolby and royalties will make any sense
<2> they played it just fine
<5> Tropic-Ll; you may need to go into the RECORDING mixer for your sound hardware and select LINE IN as the RECORDING source, not the PLAYBACK source. in fact, MUTE it in playback if you wanna watch it.
<1> the average consumer is just left to be screwed
<2> you want media, buy MCE
<6> but it's not detecting the audio
<0> they have payounds and royalties for all sorts of stuff all the time. It's done in the name of business to make a competitive product. No reason they can't find a way to get DVD support into windows (out of the box)
<2> otherwise, **** you
<5> nerp; said multimedia computer should be running MCE
<1> at LEAST ms could bundle windvd or something with the OS like they did with hyperterminal
<2> THEY DO BUNDLE
<0> nerp: Totally
<2> with MCE
<0> peerce: BS
<1> peerce - well yeah but plenty of people ***ume that ok, i got computer with dvd drive and lcd screen and speakers. Why is there no sound?
<2> cody, it's the microsoft way
<1> it's not like MS makes it clear, either.
<1> it ends up being a pain in the *** mystery.
<1> at least they could offer a wizard to either buy rights to ac3 or a link to a commercial dvd player
<0> so why even have WMP for XP and tout how bad *** and "rich" the "multimedia experience" is in XP?
<5> I can't even WATCH a dvd on xp pro on my office computer, unless I install WinDVD or smoething
<2> they've always made you pay extra for cool features
<5> powerDVD< whatever.
<1> if I owned windvd, i'd be ALL OVER ms to get that.
<2> the media experience is rich
<2> you just can't play dvd's
<0> "RICH MULTIMEDIA EXPERIENCE", oh, but you want to play a "DVD"? Whoa, that requires MCE
<1> i'd be like, yo, i'll give a 50% discount to everyone you send me for referrals
<2> most computers SHIP with a dvd player
<2> like dells
<2> ship with powerdvd
<0> that theory has to sound stupid to you guys, esp with every XP computer on the planet shipping with a DVD drive.
<2> 2channel only, but it works
<5> then it should play AC3 sound just fine.
<2> it does
<1> pop in dvd, box pops up "notice about dvd playback" etc, user understands, and now has option to either get a 1 time license or buy a dvd player at a discount
<2> i put a dvd in a dell laptop i got yesterday
<2> works just fine
<1> if anything MS should selll a way to put ac3 plaback in wmp
<1> but at least we have the open source ac3filter, so its all a moot point.
<1> but most people wouldn't find out about ac3filter without resorting to coming to IRC or something like that
<2> i've never seen a tier one machine that didn't come with dvd software
<6> so why doesn't it work?
<1> these companies really need to hire me as a marketing consultant
<6> woah
<6> wtf
<5> said open source ac3filter probably steps all over patent licenses etc
<1> i'll be the guy who says "this is how you piss people off. fix it."
<6> my "License Expired Notice" popped up
<2> lol
<1> peerce - yeah but its been available for years with no issue
<6> and audio is working all of a sudden
<0> nerp: If there is an open source ac3filter (not that I know what that is, but I ***ume that's what you need to allow WMP to play DVD files), why doesn't MS just include that open source crap into their OS?
<1> probably because legally its a grey area
<2> no
<2> it would piss off vendors
<1> sorta like when divx was out
<1> and mpg4
<6> oh wait it just eneabled playing Line In on the speakers :/
<1> it was a 'hacked' codec
<7> argh. im getting runtime errors all over the place now
<7> how do i reinstall the runtime libraries. without formatting if possible
<5> what kind of runtime errors?
<2> run windows update
<5> which runtime libraries?
<2> reinstall .net
<7> c++
<5> xyz
<2> meh i'm out guys
<2> laters
<5> !info VAGUE
<1> man i'm jealous. I'mn here for at least another 2-4 hours
<1> and I have to drag my *** back here by 5 a.m. tomorrow
<2> consulting has few perks
<1> tomorrow afternoon i'm just gonna get home, stirip naked, and collapse in the jacuzzi
<7> i get errors saying that these programs are trying to stop the runtime. wmiadap, msiexec, rundll32!
<2> randomly leaving work is one of them
<2> moo moo ;)
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