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<0> ops / members?
<1> negative.
<1> i just spit rhetoric.
<0> they're getting quotes now from toronto hydro for $7k/mn just for a dark fiber cross connect for a few floors
<0> $3k/mn for one that goes 15 ft.
<1> hahaha
<1> most of the players are meeting in montreal
<0> we don't have any presence there
<0> ie no customers
<1> understood.
<0> we don't want no french bitches
<1> oh akamai is there.
<0> lemme check something
<0> 60M right this second over torix.
<0> that's it
<1> that's a few bits
<0> yeah.
<0> it's more than what we run over mci in calgary, and we pay.
<0> i guess it does pay off for us
<1> we all can't run 20g sustained networks
<0> nope.
<0> that's a number i can't share =/
<1> Q9 is peering with 11 people
<1> the venerable 8001 is there
<0> what, at torix?
<1> if i am interepreting this right, q9 ips being seen behind other ASes
<0> what are you looking at
<1> can't tell
<1> :)
<1> it's probably not completely accurate
<0> definately not
<0> we have 17 - not including redundant connections to.. backbone transit isps
<0> and about 40 torix peers
<0> we used to have a presence in seattle but pulled out
<1> you have 3 /20s and 1 /16
<0> that doesn't sound right
<1> again, the material is mined from public data
<1> so it may or may not be accurate
<2> don't forget his /24 he keeps in his pants bludstain
<0> we have more than one asn
<0> and we also advertise on behalf of some of our customers
<1> *shrug
<0> route mirrors?
<0> or whois lookups
<1> fixxxed orbbbit
<0> fixed circles.
<1> hahaha q9.com transitted from cogent across shaw cable
<1> i love routing.
<0> yup!
<3> BALLS.
<0> i love it when packets don't come back in the same way they went out.
<0> we always get blamed for other providers ****
<1> interesting, from nyc cogent, they go towars bellnexxia
<0> OHNOES ABOVENET IS DROPPING PACKETS TO AFRICA FIX IT q9!
<1> % Connection refused by remote host
<1> sad clownz.
<0> what was that?
<1> me being denied to my own router for some reason
<1> from 209, q9 is reachable via jewjewnet
<1> aka alternet aka uunet
<0> decnet.
<0> just kind of experimenting with the world?
<1> i'm only pushing 28m to the intarweb :(
<1> well between all connections probably 40mb
<0> who does #2 work for/
<1> #2?
<0> Austin powers
<3> cocknet.
<0> i need a new job.
<0> but i'll start with a new coffee
<0> okay so
<0> do you prefer phone or email
<0> ooh here's one
<4> Email.
<4> I hate talking on the phone.
<0> I like the phone.
<0> in fact i only rarely use email. I'm on the phone all day calling customers back to verify changes.
<0> Email is an insecure medium
<4> That it is, but for stuff where I need security I use Jabber.
<4> We've got an internal SSL'd Jabber server.
<0> we have a jabber server. we don't use it
<0> we've got internal irc though
<2> hah
<4> Jabber rocks.
<0> jabber needs contacts
<0> i think
<0> part of it is that we need everybody to be able to talk at thes ame time on the same issues. an irc room works perfectly
<4> sartan: Jabber has conference rooms for that purpose.
<4> We have several here.
<0> do you have to set them up every time you log in?
<4> No.
<0> cool.
<4> If someone stays in one it remains there.
<0> so you could have "Operations"
<4> Just like IRC channels.
<0> nice.
<0> Can you publish/enforce contact lists
<3> What's the best Jabber server for Windows fdiv?
<0> ie you have a new employee, add all existing employees
<4> I think so, but I'm not sure on that one.
<3> I see most all of them run on Windows.
<4> skoalwork: Something I haven't used.
<4> :)
<0> it's not very convienent to have to add a contact to everyones list manually
<4> We use jabberd 1.4 on Linux.
<4> skoalwork: I've heard *really* good things said about Wildfire, though: http://www.jivesoftware.org/wildfire/
<4> It's Java, so it runs on Windows.
<0> my lil' brother dropped out of his java course.
<4> And it supports what sartan was asking about, so, yes.
<0> his only "programming language" right now is SQL
<4> sartan: http://www.jivesoftware.org/images/screenshots/messenger/03.png
<0> i know scott!
<4> "Server-Managed Contact Lists
<4> Define groups of users in the server and then use the shared-group feature to automatically push those groups into user's contact lists. This makes it very easy for people to start using the system and find the people they work with."
<3> I get out of work at 3:30 today.
<0> excellent
<3> Early quit.
<0> fdiv_bug: that looks awesome
<3> GANGSTA
<3> I'm going to go home and pull my weiner.
<0> maybe at my next job i'll set that up
<4> sartan: We love Jabber. It's connected to our centralized Kerberos infrastructure, too, so anyone with a Duke NetID has an account on jabber.duke.edu.
<0> eying a senior analyst position
<4> We're hoping to push the students towards using it, too, rather than AIM/Yahoo/MSN/
<0> i think that's a reasonable move forward
<0> although it won't pay as much as what i'm used to
<4> s;/$;.;
<0> yeah.. cool
<5> windows is teh stupeed
<6> within xp in disk management, what defines Disk 0 or Disk 1
<6> because windows defaults to boot off disk 0, yet my boot drive is disk 1
<7> how do i get a total number of users in a group in an active directory group?
<8> jabber?
<8> how bout irc
<0> we were just having that discussion =P
<0> IRC isn't a very secure medium for a number of reasons
<8> amen to that brother
<8> ssl?
<8> but still true
<0> yeah.
<8> it took me 3hrs yesterday to figure out that you had to run /sbin/lilo after you update lilo.conf
<9> public-key based silcs where you have to trust the person and give out a key to them would be a real step towards a secure, irc...but that would make things rather exclusive
<9> and then you can still have somebody else at the terminal
<8> one network im on disabled registration and made the channels +r...contact ircop to get registered
<0> they're probably experiencing a drone problem
<0> that's a little heavy-handed to deal with it though
<8> small network
<9> i doubt it, it's a silcs entwork, where all the pervs and pedos hang out
<8> ssl
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