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<0> thats not a practical application.. "user X makes a mistake and saves over the document. VSS allows the end user to revert without IT intervention"
<1> a ^h a ^h a ^h a^h a ^h a^h a^h
<0> bet see cow
<0> thats where in discussion i would count it as right
<2> im sure i would have elaborated sober
<0> because we discussed it and you get it
<2> did i get any other partials
<1> people make mistakes?
<1> NO
<1> NO WAY
<1> YOU LIE!
<1> LIARS!
<1> I HATE YOU!
<1> I'M STILL AT WERK
<0> the PIX question was partial
<2> what did i totally pooch on
<1> oh wait.
<0> number 2
<2> oh, ACL
<0> that answer was poledit
<2> why make a conduit, sillyness
<1> ip access-list 99 deny ip any any
<1> who's smart?
<0> why not drunk?
<1> find the error!
<2> because everyone uses the same ports, wtf does it matter
<2> doesn't need to be stateful
<0> actually, its because conduits are deprecated and have been for a few years
<0> you cant actually do it anymore in current pixos
<1> not everyone has up to date software to know that
<2> ah, well that makes sense also
<0> yup amon
<1> nor does it make the pix any less usefull
<2> amon, you presume i know jack**** about pix's
<0> but it tells me how current the user is on pix adminsitration
<2> which, i do not
<1> understand the concept of pix.
<1> not the symantics.
<2> yes
<0> thats not symantics
<1> the commands are not important.
<0> that a real world experience quetsion
<2> understand the concept of routing :P
<1> the concept is.
<0> because guess what
<2> digi the realworld answer is i'd look it the **** up on cisco.com
<2> :P
<0> when sysadmin X has the network down and no one is around
<1> just because cisco says you should memorize the commands
<1> doesn't make it the real world.
<0> and he is attempting to add a conduit on an OS that doesnt support it
<0> thats time wasted
<2> digidog, then i revert from a previous known good flash backup
<2> and drink some more coffee
<0> OR
<1> that's user having the ability to look at the configus previously
<0> add the ACL
<1> and see
<0> in 4 seconds
<3> whee
<1> THAT CONDUITS ARE NOT USED
<3> hrmm
<1> failure on your part.
<0> how long does it take him to decipher that?
<3> I havent used rsync in forevah
<0> nop
<0> e
<2> eh?
<0> its an experience question
<1> i disagree.
<1> completely.
<0> well
<2> digi, i would never make a "conduit"
<2> unless explicitly forced to
<0> thats fine, but ive seen people waste time while the network is down (consultants) and then call TAC and TAC tells them conduits are deprecated
<2> cause that's like, bleh
<0> so if thats missions critical (your firewall) HIRE SOMEONE WITH EXPERIENCE
<2> digi, that's because they are billing you at a large rate
<1> in your environment, failure. in the real world, he knows HOW PIX WORKS. chances are before a failure, he'll have reviewed the configs and seen that CONDUITS are DEPRECATED
<2> no, there wouldn't be a failure
<2> because i'd read before i ****ed with it
<1> first thing i do when i get into a new job
<1> is
<1> MAP THE NETWORK
<0> you ***ume im not in the real world
<1> poke into every device.
<1> generate an UNDERSTANDING
<2> digi how many people have that level of access to the routers
<1> now, if day 2 of my employment **** goes haywire
<1> well
<1> trial by fire
<0> the sr sysadmin has all access
<0> i have a sysadmin
<0> i can train him
<2> but no one else
<2> except you
<0> not even me
<0> well i probalby do
<0> i dont know the p***words without looking them up
<1> i agree with drunk here
<1> chances are.
<2> ok, so, if i read up on it, i wouldn't break it
<2> and even if i DID break it
<0> right cow
<1> mr. admin will ahve poked around
<2> i'd just roll back the flash
<3> wow
<0> and im not saying i wouldnt hire someone for getting that wrong
<1> badtz!
<3> my girl looks good making out withother girls.
<0> BUT IT GIVES ME AN IDEA OF PRIOR EXPERIENCE
<2> i wasn't wrong, i was incomplete =)
<3> sup foo
<2> digi, yes i knopw
<0> you people need to understand the point of apptitude
<1> prior experience question is
<1> your first weeko n the job what do you
<1> I DRAW VISIOS
<0> yup
<0> thats what i have people do too
<2> i'm not a fan of visio
<1> "oh, i'm sorry, you haven't worked with ios 12.2, only 12.4, we can't hire you as you know too many advanced commands"
<0> see amon, i never said that
<2> i mean, i don't have a _better_ product
<2> but i still don't like it
<1> you make it sound like it digi
<0> no
<1> with the conduit thing
<0> i simply stated the answer to a question
<2> nah i don't think he did
<0> you disected my intentions
<1> i got zat feeling.
<2> he's been burned, that's all
<2> i know where he's been
<0> ive hired quite a few people
<2> i get to a client site, and an admin renamed the server, because he was bored
<1> you've stated that.
<2> and broke a bunch of ****
<1> what?
<2> because he didn't read
<1> change without testing?
<1> WHAT?
<2> and then there are hours of wasted time
<0> i hired one guy with 0 citrix experience, but he was able to write an entire deployment app in vistual basic.. and while i dont give a **** about that
<2> i know exactlly what he means
<0> it showed he had tha baility to learn
<2> why would you write it in vb
<1> haha
<1> not the point!
<0> because it was point and click
<0> for end users at remote sites
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