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<0> and a virus package
<0> memory is cheap, no reason to have min. 1g
<1> Mahdi, virii are less of an issue these days compared to spyware/adware tho.
<0> true true
<2> is the microsoft one better than ad aware or whatever
<3> MS-AS is not that trustworthy. Microsoft whitelists known malware because the companies have paid MS enough to get on such a whitelist.
<2> i have a gig
<4> what the **** ever
<1> troopa, you got documenation of that?
<4> MS doesnt give a **** what some ******* company can pay them
<0> ms stuff works well
<3> Hawkeye: Google it.
<4> they are more concerned with their user base who buys there **** and the possibility of bad publicity
<0> it's an extremely good first start
<1> troopa, I don't have to. *You* are the one making the claim.
<1> Therefor you have to back yourself up with data.



<4> and that claim is black helicopter nonsense
<0> step up or shut up.
<2> f-secure has a good repuation, it scanned with spyware definitions from 6 hours ago
<0> is what the bomb hangin over your head says
<1> digidog, yeah I know. I'm expecting him to come up with some ber conspiracy theory website.
<4> yeah
<4> "they pay MS off"
<1> f-secure is the old f-prot from the BBS era right?
<4> ms doesnt need to be paid off
<0> have you seeen bills property taxes?
<2> i dont know its some european company that updates their definitions a lot
<0> hell ya he needs the cash.
<1> Yeah, that's f-prot
<1> Kind of good to know they survived.
<5> interesting, windows mddia encoder somehow blows up trying to encode 352x240 mpeg1 video.
<2> f-secure and kaspersky are supposed to be good
<4> f-secure is so 2001
<0> #womdpws
<0> sd'fp
<1> mrrp, used to be a well respected a-v program ... back in the mid90s when I ran a BBS.
<0> #windows
<0> meet william gates
<0> http://www.zillow.com/search/Search.z?addrstrthood=1835+73rd+Ave+NE&citystatezip=Medina%2C+WA&mode=search
<1> mrrp, but for spy/ad/malware INSTALL THE FUCING PROGRAM I TOLD YOU TO.
<2> so what windows virus protection do you run
<2> i hear that german antivir is good
<1> mrrp, doesn't matter.
<4> ONE BATH???
<4> **** THAT!
<1> I run MS-AntiSpyware
<5> whats that popular video editiing thing thats opensource?
<1> mrrp, and you have your suggestion.
<0> 50k sq ft
<0> i'm betting that's not '1 bath'
<2> vdub
<5> vdub yeah, thansk
<1> mrrp, you can go instal it and run it on your system and comeback after that.
<1> mrrp, if you say another thing not related to you installing that program I will ban you.
<2> i wonder if i need a web browser to download it
<0> +options indexes
<0> that's the correct line for a directory list, no?
<0> in .htaccess
<1> Okay, I guess he did kind of get me there.
<1> Anyone happen to have the MS-AS installer handy on their HDD?
<5> the antispyware installer?
<2> i'd be really suprised if there was spyware though, i havent installed anything off the internet yet... besides firefox 1.5
<1> Yeah
<4> SPYWARE!
<2> i saw there were some forum posts about memory leaks in firefox
<2> but it happens to ie also
<4> yer ****ed
<2> same ammount of ram
<2> and no page loads
<2> ie and firefox must share some files right
<5> not many
<4> no
<5> a few common programming libraries like clibs and stuff perhaps
<1> There
<4> they both share operating system calls
<5> firefox is truly a separate application thats not integrated into the OS and runs entirely in userspace privileges.
<4> unfortuantely



<2> crap its not connecting
<5> then again, for the most part IE does too
<1> Okay, he's now more effort than I care to do for free.
<2> well ie and firefox both run up to 250megs of ram as they try to load pages
<4> who cares
<4> **** em both
<2> what opera?
<4> lynx
<5> who the hell is running systems with less then a gig of ram these days?
<2> it has a gig of ram
<6> i am
<2> its not the ram its the no page loads
<2> when i can ping the sites fine
<4> well just because some website (ahem, myspace) uses crappy ****ing programming, doesnt mean its ie's fault
<2> ive just been trying to load google or yahoo, something thats always up
<2> the only clue i can see is the ram usage is the same in both ie and firefox
<5> some sites firefox works better, some sites IE works better. some sites firefox doesnt work well at all. you know, its a crapshoot, use what you find works best for you most of the time, and keep the alternative online as a backup when you run into issues. thats what i do.
<2> i cleared both their caches from inside the program
<2> do i have to go delete some directories?
<5> my stink is sites that dont cater to mobile browsers
<4> why?
<4> the target audience is 99% non mobile
<5> and sites that do have special code to recognize mobile agents and send different code, i love those
<4> **** the treo
<5> j, dude, you would be amazed how many sites cater to mobile browsers.
<4> i have them all bookmarked
<4> and its all i need
<4> gmail, msn mobile, espn mobile, cnn mobile, goodlink
<5> since many of them are database backended, the content in the DB is the same for them all, they just use different rendering engines depending on the browser id.
<2> that shouldnt be soo hard to do
<5> the local newspaper here makes a point about it on their mainpage
<5> fark has a page, www.fark.com/avantgo which is very basic, no ads, no crap.
<4> my phone uses windows smartphone mobile
<4> it works fine
<5> though i dont think it loads without a mobile browser string
<2> yea with so little screen estate they cant throw banners everywhere
<5> digidog: you know, dude, im not against windows mobile man. since my treo was stolen last weekend, im looking hard into getting a windows mobile device.
<4> we are baling on palm ****
<4> we are bailing on our treo 650's
<5> digidog: im just trying to find a good device
<4> there is only one
<1> z0g, about time you realized ...
<5> digiwork: the 700w is out of the question in my opinion
<1> Palm is pretty dead now.
<4> well one that is non qwert
<4> well yeah, cause verizon is it for that
<4> we use the cingular smartphone
<4> its like the audiovox
<4> which i have
<2> lot of blackberry
<1> Tho, I still managed to impress some people tonight when I used grafiti to enter some data on my i500
<5> digidog: I have been looking into the iMate phones. big screen, wifi, bluetooth, slide-out qwerty, but i want one with edge.
<1> "imate?"
<1> PPC-6700
<4> our people want ed qwerty then thay decided its too big
<7> Hi, I am very experienced in IT, but I just can't seem to solve this problem with my Toshiba Satelite USB Controller. Here is the problem: USB didn't work (couldn't find driver in device manager). Downloaded driver from toshiba site for model, unsuccessful. Tried downloading the drivers from Intel site for the chipset (845MP). Installed over 7 revisions of many drivers and tried deleteing all OEMs from win dir an
<5> imate has been around for awhile. two guys at work have them. theyre sweet.
<4> they want small phones they can get email on
<1> PeapTLS, did it ever occure to you to call toshiba?
<5> digidog: the imates qwerty slides out like the zaurus, its not there otherwise
<2> is it enabled in the bios
<4> too big still
<1> PPC-6700.
<7> Hi hawkeye, my warentee is over.
<1> PeapTLS, guess you're screwed then, aren't you?>
<5> digiwork: i agree, a phone with a full 320x240 or 640x480 is going to be hard to hold as a phone against your face, and im not the kind of guy who uses bluetooth earpieces.
<5> digidog: hence why ive liked the treo
<4> http://www.good.com/index.php/products_cingular2125.html
<2> did you see that laser ir keyboard thing, it projects a red keyboard on anything
<5> Also if I get another treo, i can plop it in my dock, hit sync, and its back to my old treo.
<4> thats what we are trading in the treos for
<5> and the battery life in the treo is ****ing stellar, and its camera, while VGA, is one of the best available on current phones.
<1> Camera ... phone ... *chuckle*


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