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<0> that old scrotum self-repair story?
<1> i honestly dont understand how people can do that without slicing themselves up like a thanksgiving turkey
<2> i use shears.. no razors. I'm not into baby bottom smooth anyhow because i'm hair all over, so it's wierd to be hairy hairy hairy, perfectly smooth and shiny, hairy hairy hairy
<2> like I fell into a bucket of nads or something
<3> Jeesus ... that took forever to get it to work right.
<3> Had to disable it ... reset the PDA
<3> Re-enable it and reset the PDA
<1> if you remove the battery, hawkeye, does that reset all its memory?
<3> No
<3> Cuz its got a wafer battery in it to back that up
<1> does it have a little lithium coin cell for memory backup, or something like that?
<3> Coin, wafer ... whatever you wanna call it.
<3> Yes
<1> cause thats all i can think about as to explain what happened to it the other night
<1> remember we were doing something ****ing around with the reset button
<1> maybe the battery lost contact,
<3> My reset button is on the front.
<1> oh yeah
<3> Remmber it uses that little pin
<1> cause all we added was that stupid connect four game
<3> See, its all your fault.
<3> :-p
<3> Hey, at least I'm not blaming you for the keyboard. That was me that spilled the beer
<1> http://freshmeat.net/projects/coconutfern/
<1> doesnt even specify a minimum os revision
<1> err version
<1> im actually surprised its a freshmeat project. didnt know that till just now
<4> hey
<4> who wants to ssh into my CentOS/Postfix/Spam******in/ClamAV box and install/configure AMAVISD
<1> ill ssh in. but i dont have a clue how to do that.
<4> hahahah
<4> hell you won't even need to ssh in
<4> I can give you the vmware image
<4> just send it back
<1> heh. a virtualized firewall? :D
<4> easier to ssh in I guess
<4> yeah virtual mail appliance
<1> err. mailserver.
<4> it's gonna sit next to the virtual web server in my DMZ
<4> on one Poweredge 300
<4> with 1GB
<1> ive been thinking about virtualizing stuff for work. but we're just not a really large organization, im not sure it would help us.
<1> we have 5 servers in one rack, and thats really more then enough
<4> it all depends
<1> though, its very appealing to be able to easily move a server from one hardware platform to another
<4> "our motherboard fried"
<4> "that's cool"
<1> but were using hp netservers that just dont want to die.
<4> "boot the image off the other server"
<1> theyre like tanks
<4> dude
<4> HP/Compaq servers ****ing pWn
<2> http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/catstarrphotography/livejournal/newhair10.jpg <- wow... she looks psycho
<1> hell yeah they do
<4> expensive though
<4> but you get what you pay for
<1> Worth it.
<2> "i'm going to ****ing eat your kids!"
<4> they are worth it
<4> we got a Proliant ML530 G2, about 3 years old
<4> we expect to use it for another 5 years
<4> it's only got 3GB in it
<1> Pay a little more now, or pay alot later, over time, in administrativa.
<4> expandable to 16GB
<4> and we're gonna virtualize it
<0> she reminds me of toots braunstein on "drawn together".
<2> hehe, yeah
<1> actually, we have built one Supermicro server. Sorta-built. They delivered the 4U ch***is and motherboard, i just installed the board, processors, ram, raid card, drives, etc. sort of a kit computer, for the most part its a supermicro machine.
<4> is supermicro the **** dell builds with?
<1> I dunno. Supermicro is good stuff though. I would rate their motherboards right up there with Tyan.
<4> is it worth it to build your own server
<1> Well, we built that box to be a NAS, eight 250gb SATA drives in a RAID5 on a 3ware 9000 series, dual xeon 2.8 ghz, 8gb ram, ran us under 2k
<1> so I dunno. price that out with an OEM
<4> I can go either way with servers. Like -- our Linux based vmware sessions for our web server, MX and DNS is all white box. My WSUS and SAVCE are white box (vmware also)
<1> the cpus didnt need to be dual, and we didnt need 8gb ram. that machine is WAY over-specced
<1> but thats a sweet price
<4> 3WAre ****ing owns too
<1> Yes they make a very good sata raid card
<5> mofoshizzle
<1> that was a huge chunk of the cost too, i think it was a $500 card
<4> yeah
<1> actually maybe we mighta paid as much as $3k for that box
<4> 3Ware is the compaq of RAID cards
<4> Adaptec is sorta the HP
<4> ahahah
<6> i never liked adaptec raid
<1> Adaptec always just works though. theyre tried and proven
<4> yeah adaptec bothers me
<6> lsi logic
<6> lsi makes good stuff
<1> I've had great success using Adaptec in RAID1. Never used them in RAID5 though. I've used alot of LSI in RAID5 and they do indeed rock
<4> We had a RAID 5 3Ware PATA
<4> ran great
<1> wait actually i do have a machine running an adaptec in a 3 drive RAID5. no problems with it.
<6> adaptec scsi controllers always had funky marginal electricals, hypersenstive to cabling and termination
<4> I hate SCSI strictly because of the cabling
<1> its in a supermicro superserver. i think its one of those slot-0 integrated raid5 module
<4> but there's SAS now
<1> FKnight`: SCSI can be very finicky when it comes to cabling. I had a workstation that was having performance issues, disk errors in event log, took it apart, and the SCSI ribbon cable had a few wires pulled out of the laminate.
<1> thats it.
<1> that was enough to cause errors
<1> replaced it and things were back to normal
<6> that can cause problems with IDE/ATA too
<7> OH GAWD.
<1> Whats funny however, is we're using these "round" U320 SCSI cables, which are essentially standard u320 grade scsi ribbon, but rolled up and covered with a braid, and they work just fine
<1> i would tend to think that would introduce some interference or perhaps some capacitance between wires
<6> most of my SCSI stuff at work these days uses backplane PCBAs.
<6> works much better that way
<1> Yeah all our servers are backplane based, this is just for our workstations
<4> peerafk yeah
<4> I have no problem with that backplaned scsi stuff
<1> Yes we even use scsi in our workstations. in fact IDE drives are mostly a rarity in our company.
<4> with external devices though, like a library or a scanner. It annoys me
<4> our GIS guys have a striped SATA
<6> can't wait til we get this budget sorted out, the CAR pushed, the PR and PO cut, and take delivery on a new small (56 spindle) SAN for the lab, along with some new servers
<4> on the wkstns
<6> 56 x 73GB 15k FC drives.
<1> we've pondered going SATA, but we've established a pretty good relationship with this vendor whose selling us 15,000 rpm U320 SCSI disks for freaking DIRT CHEAP, and sata cant touch that
<4> incidentally, our FC attached XServe RAID with 1.5TB of SATA RAID has been working fine.
<4> it just kinda works out of the box
<4> oh wait, 3.5TB
<4> 3.5TB for about $10K
<6> this looks to be a nice box for FC/SATA stuff -> http://www.sun.com/storage/workgroup/3000/3500/3511/
<1> we're already straining our 2TB NAS. so we're thinking about swapping out the current 250gb drives with 500gb drives. but then theres a problem. Where do we put 2gb of data while we upgrade the drives in the raid? :D
<6> can put like 5 expansion JBOD trays on the one master controller trays.
<1> err. 2tb. you know what i mean
<3> z0g, easy ... but it would involve buying another controller card.
<2> hahaha.. ****ing spammers... check out this chatlog from yahoo i just got: http://azurejim.com/yahoospam.html
<4> that sun is expensive for SATA
<6> z0g^^; if its a GOOD NAS, you pull one drive at a time from each RAID, wait for it to replicate. once all drives are swapped, expand to the new bigger size.
<3> You move the 250g drives to another machine ... and start a new array
<6> that doesn't work if they are RAID5 however
<6> at least not as easily
<1> whats the quality of sun like? i imagine its pretty good but just guessing.
<6> sun stuff is very good. that 3510/3511 stuff is Engenio based
<4> last sun was used was a Sparcstation 20 for our file server :D It got shutdown 6 months ago
<6> which is LSI Logic :D
<1> our supermicros are, well, just computers. no real frills. very good computers, but its not some insanely overengineered server like what HP/Compaq puts out
<6> http://www.engenio.com/products/2822_system.html <- that controller is what Sun 35xx uses
<1> FKnight`: know anyone who might be interested in some Sun Creator 60 workstations? Got a closet full of em.
<4> over engineered = I can stay home on weekends.
<1> FKnight`: precisely
<6> and this is what the Sun 63xx uses http://www.engenio.com/products/5884_controller.html
<1> FKnight`: dude, my last job, before this place, was working for that cheap *** tightwad company who did EVERYTHING on the cheap. Man, you sneeze and some system would go down. Not even that. look at it funny.
<0> hm, i never get any unsolicited messages on yahoo. not that i particularly want them.
<6> IBM resells that stuff too, as TOtalStorage DS4xxx stuff
<1> FKnight`: we're running all high end equipment here, and **** just stays up.
<4> z0g^^` oh no **** dude. Dude. I hear you re: cheap.
<4> oh my GODF
<4> *GOD
<1> FKnight`: At this point, the most likely point of failure is in microsoft's court.
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